The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

I appreciate the reply. And I agree that those who reject Jesus Christ are not covered because they have rejected the greatest gift that was ever given to mankind. And yes there are consequences for every decision one makes and because God gave man a free will one can choose how they will spend eternity. I was just interested in the use of the word atonement in both testaments and if it has the same meaning in the Hebrew and the Greek. Or is the day of atonement, even though it was practiced yearly just symbolic of what would be the real thing when Jesus was crucified?

Christ's Death effects our Repentance towards God !2

The word for repented in Jer 31:19 nacham means to be sorry, be sorry, rue, suffer grief, repent, of one's own doings , to be sorry, i.e. (in a favorable sense)

Its being made sorry for our wrong doings in a favorable sense, like for instance, when Paul wrote to the Corinthians 2 Cor 7:9-11

9 Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.

10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.

And please notice in Vs 9 "for ye were made sorry after a godly manner"

Being made sorry is in the passive voice, its something that was wrought in them ! See Isa 26:12 !

They were made sorry for wrongdoing by the Power and Grace of God working in them, which sorrow workth repentance to Salvation or conversion, Note: Conversion is a kind of Salvation. This was Illustrated on the Day of Pentecost, How that the Risen Christ poured out His Spirit and Grace on that multitude, and it caused them to show forth the fruit of Godly Sorrow repentance for what they had done Acts 2:37-38 !

So repentance is the fruit and effect of the death of Christ. So when Peter later writes in his epistle about all coming to repentance 2 Pet 3:9

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Hes merely stating in light of what appears to be a delay in Christ's Second Coming, its no delay at all, for God's Purpose has allowed for the passage of time in order for the full number of the elect, from generation to generation, until the end of the world, that the full number come under the turning effects of the death of Christ, such turning brings about their repentance unto Salvation, 2 Cor 7:10; 2 Pet 3:15 ! 43

Well said! I must agree.
Hebrews 9:11-15 is one of my favorites.

sorry , i did not mean to be so harsh in my last post, I do love other Christians so very much - but I just don't understand how atonement applies to many of the conversation and I am sure that it is very on topic

i am not saying that, I just don't fully comprehend the expansion that is being presented but do appreciate you and I do read the posts. still reading and learning. thank you,,,

i jumped in too quickly and was a little off topic. please accept my sincere apology

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Christ's Death effects our Repentance towards God !3

Something else is seen in our text from Jer 31:18-19

18 I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the Lord my God.

19 Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.

Christ's death ensures our instruction, or chastening of the Lord, our discipline !

All for whom Christ died are Sons, for He tasted death for every Son Heb 2:9-10

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

As Sons we all shall be instructed into the ways of Salvation, we inherit a Spiritual education which teaches us our need for Christ and His Righteousness which He has already provided for us. This is why Jesus says these words Jn 6:44-45

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man or son therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

The every man here are Sons, that's why Jesus says they have learned of the Father. Also Jesus says that it has been written in the prophets about this matter, lets read where in the Prophets Isa 54:13

And all thy children shall be taught of the Lord; and great shall be the peace of thy children.

That word children is the word ben and means Sons ! And the word taught can be rendered instructed !

All thy Sons shall be instructed, this is what Jesus means in Jn 6:44-45, which is for every Son Christ died for.

This spiritual education and learning is what every Son must go through Heb 12:5-13


All those God Loves are His Sons and He chastens them Vs 6, and this chastening begins our spiritual education. The word chasten paideuó
means :

I discipline, educate, train, (b) more severely: I chastise.

Now this is what the Prophet means in Jer 31:19

19 Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.

God brings all His Sons to this point, to smote upon their thigh, and saying denoting their acute awareness of their sinfulness and pollution before God, results in a godly sorrow for sin !

Remember the Lords words in Lk 18:13-14

13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

Notice how he smote upon his breast [similar to jeremiah] saying " God be merciful to me a sinner"

Its no doubt therefore he was a Son who had to be chastened, instructed of his sinfulness, and we see the fruit of such instruction, Looking to God for Mercy, Propitiation which is through Christ !

Christ's Covenant Death shall produce this reaction or a very similar one for everyone He died for, guaranteed ! Because if they are Sons its ensured, and they are Sons if God Loved them Heb 12:6

6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receivet

The Same God and Love as in Jn 3:16, the World of His Sons !

You are opposing Truth !

Sanctified by His Death !

Heb 10:10

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

And in accordance with this will [of God], we have been made holy (consecrated and sanctified) through the offering made once for all of the body of Jesus Christ (the Anointed One).AMP

All for whom Christ died, The meaning of the words " the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ", are by it Sanctified, set apart, once and for all, which produces results into their present and future ! The word sanctified here is the greek word hagiazō:


I.to render or acknowledge, or to be venerable or hallow


II.to separate from profane things and dedicate to God

A.consecrate things to God


B.dedicate people to God


III.to purify

A.to cleanse externally


B.to purify by expiation: free from the guilt of sin


C.to purify internally by renewing of the soul

Now to do this, to make or render Holy, to purify internally entails a the making of a new creation, a new man Created Eph 4:24

24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

This New Man must be Created to render True that Christ's death sanctified us, or its not a reliable Truth, its a lie ! Thats right, Heb 10:10 would be a lie.

The word created ktizō means to form, shape, make

B.to form, shape, i.e. to completely change or transform

So all for whom Christ died shall be be Created Holy in a New Creation, this is how they become sanctified internally, its that renewal Paul speaks of here Titus 3:5

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

That word renewing means:

I.a renewal, renovation, complete change for the better,

B.to be changed into a new kind of life as opposed to the former corrupt state

The Sanctification that Christ's Death provides changes the inner man, or it would be incomplete !

Also, thats why its foolish to think or believe the Lie that Christ tasted death for all humanity without exception, as false teachers wretch to their own destruction Heb 2:9

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

If tasting death for every man meant all without exception, then all without exception would be Sanctified by His Death as stated in Heb 10:10 and consequently all without exception would be made a New Man, would be given a New Life unto God, or His death failed to once and for all Sanctify them, which is Blasphemy to High Heaven ! His Sanctifying death mandates an implantation of New Life !

Sanctified by His Death !2

Lets revisit the word sanctified in Heb 10:10, its the verb hagiazō ,from the adjective hagios which means:

sacred (physically, pure, morally blameless or religious, ceremonially, consecrated):—(most) holy (one, thing), saint.

The verb means also :

to purify by expiation: free from the guilt of sin

Which meaning it has here 1 Cor 6:11;Heb 13:12 and is akin to what the writer of Hebrews means here by the word purged Heb 1:3

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

The word purged here katharismos means:

a cleansing from the guilt of sins wrought by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ !

Amen, a cleansing from the guilt of sin contracted by the fall in Adam and afterwards in themselves, strictly by the Death of Christ, after which He " sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on High " !


This again points to the offering of Himself, His Body Heb 10:10

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Many false teachers deny that those Christ died for are by His death alone, not His resurrection, deny that by it they are saved from the penalty of their sins, Justified from the guilt of them ! But thats exactly what the word sanctified means in Heb 10:10:

to purify by expiation: free from the guilt of sin

To be free from the guilt of sin is Justification ! The word Justification in Rom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Its the greek word dikaiōsis and means:

1. the act of God declaring men free from guilt and acceptable to him
2. abjuring to be righteous, justification

The resurrection therefore is a open declaration of what the death of Christ accomplished, our Justification from all guilt of sin, and abjuring us righteous ! 43

Now you opposing the sanctifying effects of the death of Christ, not good

Christ died only for the sons of God, the children of God, and they are by it, sanctified, set apart for God Heb 2:10-11

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their[sons] salvation perfect through sufferings.

11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

More debating of the Truth, its crystal clear that the ones Christ died for were sanctified by it forever. Heb 10:`10

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

The word sanctified here is in the perfect tense and passive voice, the perfect means:

In Greek corresponds to the perfect tense in English, and describes an action which is viewed as having been completed in the past, once and for all, not needing to be repeated.

So the ones Christ died for have neen sanctified once and for all, so they are actually saved. Now is all mankind once and for all sanctified by the death of Christ ? No so Christ didnt die for them.

John Gill on Heb 10:10

JFB Commentary:

More unnecessary debate of the Truth, Christ died only for the children of God, and it gathers them in Jn 11:50-52

50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.

51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;

52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.