about Suicide

1 John 5:3
For this IS the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

The mercy of God and the grace of God... is to warn others that false doctrines leads to perdition.

Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.





I've been there myself, more than once. I used to be a drunk and a drug addict back in the day and came from a family where if you died, they wouldn't even miss you!

The Lord personally walked me thru His Word and taught me how to engage in spiritual warfare. None of the pastors in the churches I went to over the years knew beans about spiritual warfare so they were useless concerning spiritual growth!

It's a slick trick of the devil to have well known preachers go around claiming if a Christian kills themselves they will go to Heaven... these are all false teachers satan is using to get this message out.

And surprise!... these false teachers all believe in OSAS so they all ultimately believe one goes to Heaven anyway even if they live in sin including the SIN of killing themselves.

Many of these false teachers engage in double speak and publicly claim they don't believe in OSAS but later when corned with the question of is there anyway a Christian would not go to Heaven even if living in sin... they always say no, there is no way a Christian would ever not to to Heaven.





And, that's their own fault!... THEY allowed the devil to deceive them because they failed to submit themselves to God and resist the devil making him flee (James 4:7).

That was the turning point in my life when I learned to quit blaming others for my problem and realize my problems are caused by my lack of submission unto the Lord and dying to self, taking up my cross and following the Lord daily.

People that have no hope... it's all about them and they are feeling sorry for themselves cause it's all about them and how they feel and their problems and boo whoo woe is me!

One must learn that it's all about the LORD and what He wants and to die to self and abide IN HIM as a part of the Body of Christ and cast our own cares, worries, and hurts away.






Are you saying if one sows to the flesh (do sinful things), they don't reap corruption?

That is mocking God according to Galatians 6:7-8 and is the belief that one can live in sin and still be in right standing before the Lord... both of which false doctrines that pleases satan very much as this is his message!

Galatians 6:7-8 (see Gen 8:22)
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
God gave man free will... if man chooses to turn and walk away from the Lord, God will let them do so.

This is a major biblical truth the OSAS crowd always explains away or denies is simply this... God is NOT mocked, what we sow is what we reap - if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap corruption. (Gal 6:7,8)

In Gal 6:8, the word corruption is...

G5356
fthora from G5351; decay, i.e. ruin -- corruption, destroy, perish.

G5351
strengthened from phthio (to pine or waste); properly, to shrivel or wither, i.e. to spoil or to ruin, by moral influences, to deprave): -- corrupt (self), defile, destroy.

If one claims we DO reap corruption when we sin, then they are admitting they do not believe OSAS / Eternal security doctrine (and sadly many of their friends will forsake them!).... and if one claims we DO NOT reap what we sow, then according to Gal 6:7, that would be mocking God!

Adam and Eve were given eternal life by the Lord when He created them... but when they sinned against God they became corrupt and died spiritually and became separated from God.

So Gal 6:7,8 is quite the quandary, quite the state of uncertainty and perplexity for the adherents of OSAS doctrine.


Romans 8:11-13
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

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When someone quotes Strong's, without even the word in proper Koine Greek letters, it tells me the person has no understanding or Mastery of the original languages.

Try using a lexicon. That is Greek to Greek- BDAG or Hebrew to Hebrew.

Again, you have lost the words racham, or compassion, which is splagzyomai in Greek. That means twisting of the bowels. It refers to a deep love and caring for those who are hurting. You seem to have lost that, with your condemnation and judgement. I pray God will touch you fresh and you will understand his mercy and compassion, which does not consist of judgement or condemnation.

"There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus" Romans 8:1

I notice you don't go to church. Is that because you are to hard to get along with? I know you will probably spout something about doctrine, but usually, God cares how we treat others, before correct doctrine. I am really big on correct doctrine, but not when it means shutting people out of the kingdom of God.

When someone quotes Strong's, without even the word in proper Koine Greek letters, it tells me the person has no understanding or Mastery of the original languages.

"There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus" Romans 8:1

When someone quotes Strong's, without even the word in proper Koine Greek letters, it tells me the person has no understanding or Mastery of the original languages.

Try using a lexicon. That is Greek to Greek- BDAG or Hebrew to Hebrew.

Again, you have lost the words racham, or compassion, which is splagzyomai in Greek. That means twisting of the bowels. It refers to a deep love and caring for those who are hurting. You seem to have lost that, with your condemnation and judgement. I pray God will touch you fresh and you will understand his mercy and compassion, which does not consist of judgement or condemnation.

"There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus" Romans 8:1

I notice you don't go to church. Is that because you are to hard to get along with? I know you will probably spout something about doctrine, but usually, God cares how we treat others, before correct doctrine. I am really big on correct doctrine, but not when it means shutting people out of the kingdom of God.

If we die with sin on our record then it stays with us for eternity which means it cannot be taken away.

We cannot repent of our sins after we die for if that was the case then everybody would be saved, for the people that died in their sins would not say I think I will stay in my sins, even though I cannot enjoy sin anymore, and not be with God with joy, and peace, and love.

If a person commits suicide which is a sin then how do they repent of it after the act of suicide for they are dead which means it is on their record for eternity.

It’s been my experience that those that do that are trying to hide the guilt of their own.

Wondering what “Jimmy” would say to our Lord about His statement here?

John 10:18

New King James Version
18 No one takes it (His Life) from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.”

The Bible says as Jonah was dying, his thoughts remembered God and God sent a fish to swallow him.

the Police took him to be evaluated.... He was committed for his own safety.

God KNOWS the Heart.