10 Questions about OSAS

SOME Christians are smart enough to be able to work through individual doctrines without labels.

When Paul prayed 3 times to have a problem removed, it was revealed that grace was sufficient,
not healing. The grace that saves is also the grace that sustains. Without grace, we all fall away.

And it highlights the role of the Trinity in salvation. The good Shepherd seeks and saves. The Holy Spirit cleans and enlightens. And the Father draws.

9. Explain why Christ’s apostle Paul warned all New Testament believers, namely Gentiles, that they will be “cut off” from and by God if they do not continue in His goodness? (Romans 11:20-22)

JimmyTheLock
you probably own their books and support FOOLS and DEMONS like this

Civil Disorder, typically follows Government shut down for even short periods [we have it on record for all nations]

But the biggest issue I have, is cutting off support to both the USA Military

if you are MAGA

Bills can't be paid, no food on the table, many things come into factor here. and if people are willing to storm Capital Hill (over VOTES)... then during a shutdown, where your money is cut-off, easily can lead to CIVIL DISORDER in a matter of days.

read it carefully

No, you'd be wrong homie... I read that Book published by my favorite Author... Jesus Christ.

Turns out, He is THE source of God's Word because He IS God's Word.

All other authors are just sharing their opinions... I'll stick with the Jesus says!
But, thanks so much for thinking of me! That was nice.





Not in this nation you don't have it on record... I know during my lifetime there have been numerous government shut downs and the only people crying in their soup were the liberals to suck on the government teat wanting to know when their hand outs will be fully restored!




That's not true... they have built in provisions to keep the military up and running by funds that have already been approved.

The government is a joke and needs to be shut down and reorganized back to where it obeys the US Constitution rather than socialism which is how government functions now.




I'm an independent and don't subscribe to any political movement... I'm a child of the Most High God and I'm called to be a citizen of the Kingdom of God.

But, I do oppose killing babies, sexual perversion, and mob rule... so obviously the most evil of the two political parties in this nation are the democrats.




Yeah, that would be you democrats doing all that...




I'll pass... thanks so much for thinking about me though!

and there was no Civil Disorder at all.

I'll pass... thanks so much for thinking about me though!

[JTL's OP] 9. Explain why Christ’s apostle Paul warned all New Testament believers, namely Gentiles, that they will be “cut off” from and by God if they do not continue in His goodness? (Romans 11:20-22)

Acts 20:27-30
For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

I was just trying to help.

I maintain that you've misunderstood and misapplied the "context" of Romans 11's "olive tree". Many people do.

Yeah, trying to help me quit accepting the whole counsel of God in favor of only accepting a select few passages so I'll be come one of those OSAS peoples and be a follower of false doctrines. No thanks!





You totally forgot about that born again thingy bob... ya gotta accept all the Lord says to properly understand.

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

If a Jewish person gets born again... then the New Covenant applies to them just like it does gentiles.

The NT clearly tells us that Jews who have not accepted Christ are not grafted in because of unbelief

Romans 11:19-25
Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

How does someone become unborn again?

How does someone become unborn again?

If you knew God's Word... you would know how people can be righteous, and then become UN-righteous

Galatians 6:7-8 (see Gen 8:22)
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
God gave man free will... if man chooses to turn and walk away from the Lord, God will let them do so.

Romans 1:28
they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do what ought not to be done

The gifts and callings of God are without repentance which means God cannot violate our free will and save us anyway IF we choose to go back to our sin which is living in darkness. In God there is NO darkness. (1 John 1:5)

This is a major biblical truth the OSAS crowd always explains away or denies is simply this... God is NOT mocked, what we sow is what we reap - if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap corruption. (Gal 6:7,8)

In Gal 6:8, the word corruption is...

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fthora from G5351; decay, i.e. ruin -- corruption, destroy, perish.

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strengthened from phthio (to pine or waste); properly, to shrivel or wither, i.e. to spoil or to ruin, by moral influences, to deprave): -- corrupt (self), defile, destroy.

If one claims we DO reap corruption when we sin, then they are admitting they do not believe OSAS / Eternal security doctrine (and sadly many of their friends will forsake them!).... and if one claims we DO NOT reap what we sow, then according to Gal 6:7, that would be mocking God!

Adam and Eve were given eternal life by the Lord when He created them... but when they sinned against God they became corrupt and died spiritually and became separated from God. So Gal 6:7,8 is quite the quandary, quite the state of uncertainty and perplexity for the adherents of OSAS doctrine.

If a once truly born again believer can’t possibly go back to sin and go to hell, explain:

1. Where did God say any man ever loses his free will on this earth? (Joshua 24:15)
2. Where did God say that those He saves cannot ever go back to sin?
3. How and why are the wages of sin no longer death? (Romans 6:23)
4. Why did God separate Adam and Eve from Himself when they sinned and yet now somehow changed and keeps rebels, violators, unrepentant sinners in His kingdom? (Genesis 3:24; Malachi 3:6)
5. Explain why God is no longer just?
6. Explain why God no longer punishes sin, especially in the unrepentant? (Romans 2:6-7)
7. Explain why God is no longer holy and therefore can and will keep rebels in His holy, eternal kingdom? (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8)
8. Explain why you claim Jesus lied when He said a man can “believe” and then “fall away” if such is not possible? (Luke 8:13)
9. Explain why Christ’s apostle Paul warned all New Testament believers, namely Gentiles, that they will be “cut off” from and by God if they do not continue in His goodness? (Romans 11:20-22)
10. Explain why Jesus told the Church at Laodicea, His own people, that if they become “lukewarm,” He would reject, spue them out of His mouth? (Revelation 3:15-16)

If a once truly born again believer can’t possibly go back to sin and go to hell, explain:

1. Where did God say any man ever loses his free will on this earth? (Joshua 24:15)
2. Where did God say that those He saves cannot ever go back to sin?
3. How and why are the wages of sin no longer death? (Romans 6:23)
4. Why did God separate Adam and Eve from Himself when they sinned and yet now somehow changed and keeps rebels, violators, unrepentant sinners in His kingdom? (Genesis 3:24; Malachi 3:6)
5. Explain why God is no longer just?
6. Explain why God no longer punishes sin, especially in the unrepentant? (Romans 2:6-7)
7. Explain why God is no longer holy and therefore can and will keep rebels in His holy, eternal kingdom? (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 4:8)
8. Explain why you claim Jesus lied when He said a man can “believe” and then “fall away” if such is not possible? (Luke 8:13)
9. Explain why Christ’s apostle Paul warned all New Testament believers, namely Gentiles, that they will be “cut off” from and by God if they do not continue in His goodness? (Romans 11:20-22)
10. Explain why Jesus told the Church at Laodicea, His own people, that if they become “lukewarm,” He would reject, spue them out of His mouth? (Revelation 3:15-16)

John 10:27-29
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

The promises in this passage are ONLY applicable to those that hear His Voice (includes God's written Word), and those that follow Him.

No condemnation is ONLY applicable to those that walk after the Spirit...

Those walking after the flesh are sowing to the flesh so they are reaping corruption not eternal life... these folks need to REPENT of their sin, confess it to the Lord and forsake their sin in order to once again be in right standing with the Lord.