Israel Declares War

When people read headlines such as " $66 billion for aid to Ukraine this year ", I really wish they would read the article in its entirety. They would discover that neither Zelensky nor the Government actually got the money. The money was spent by the US on what it wanted the Ukraine to have; ie military supplies etc. The actual allocation to peoples needs was literally a few soup kitchens orchestrated and opened by the US in the Ukraine. I am not doubting that dark money operates in the manor stated. I have no idea what other countries do either regarding monies to the Ukraine. The US says they will help the people.....interesting though how they orchestrate that help.

I beg to differ. Do not take that to mean I think it's you.

But Israel and Jews are synonymous. That's the dirty little secret so many amils refuse to acknowledge.

No. I think they need to destroy Hamas, and frankly all their supporters as well.

But it sure seems that God is using this war to bring about EXACTLY what the Bible says. That every nation will be against Israel.
You can't see that truth?

You cannot have a ceasefire with a group of people that have not only vowed over and over again to annihilate your people, but have taken tangible steps to do just that.

So the only victory is to destroy them.

If every nation is against Israel... how come so many are supporting them?
(And just to be clear, I support Israel in what they are currently doing)

Do you not have a Bible? Do you not know about Ananias and Sapphira? The penalty for adultery, homosexuality, idolatory, even disobedience to parents was death. Have you not read about the man who collected firewood on the sabbath who was killed at God's command? I suppose you don't know about Noah's flood either. God killed all but 8 people.

Many nations are turning against Israel. If it was any other country at war, no one would show much interest. Turkey bombs the Kurds (yawn), Syria gasses its own people (big deal) and Russia has been attacking Ukrainian civilians continually (tsk tsk). Only Israel creates such a stir. For now, the world is divided for and against Israel. That will change as the world increasingly rejects God. Even Israel's supporters demand the impossible. Defeat Hamas without civilan casualties? I'm sure the IDF is all ears, waiting for advice as how this can be done. Two state solution? The Arab world rejected this in 1948. That was Plan 'A' according to the UN. There is still no plan B. The Arabs will accept only a one state solution. And that means the end of Israel. God will not permit this.

"66 billion" is not real money. It's an accounting figure. The military hardware supplied is mostly obsolete and/or surplus to US military requirements. It has book value but that's it. Some money goes to training, spare parts, refurbishing old equipment, but it's nothing like 66 billion.

I'm ex military. We rarely fired missiles as they were $1 million a shot. But when we did, those missiles were reaching their use by date. They were about to be scrap anyway. Some of the munitions supplied to Ukraine are 30 years old. Only a bean counter could ascribe a dollar value to them.

I would say first off, it depends on your definition of “support”.

Secondly, we’re not quite there yet, as to every nation not only against Israel, but willing to attack it, although we are unquestionably heading in that direction.

Jerusalem, as I understand, is where the Babylonian Talmudists want to set up their world government? And yes, Washington DC, the City of London and the Vatican are controlled by the same people.

If I'm right - and I'm not certain I am - the Beast system is getting set up now. The whore of Babylon - the Babylonian Talmudists, who claim to be Jews, but are not - their system which has been around for thousands of years - is under attack.

I think you're mixing up Jews (i.e. adherents to Judaism - the Torah), with Babylonian Talmudists. The first five books of the bible are inspired by God, even if they are fulfilled as Jesus has now come, died, and rose again. The Babylonian Talmud is from the devil. Purple is also the colour of kings. Who controls the kings of the world? And red is the colour of blood, of the saints, of whom the harlot is guilty of murdering.

What are Jews renowned for? (And to whom did the word of God come originally?) Who is described in the scriptures (OT) as the wife of God, and also a harlot? In Ezekiel? Note also that many Torah-observant Jews in Israel against the massacre of civilians and war crimes in Gaza are being assaulted by Babylonian Talmudist Zionists.

The wine of the wrath of her fornication? Unfaithfulness. I certainly think all the nations have become unfaithful, much like Israel was in the OT. And much of it was caused by the same people. Those professing to be Jews.

Also some of the money came back to the US through FTX for campaign contributions to help Democrats and RINOs get elected in 2022, that is now a finding that a court made when they convicted the guy at FTX.

Also, what does "obsolete" mean, does that mean these weapons don't kill people? Is a machine gun "obsolete"? Are bullets "obsolete"? Mortars? Are we talking about weapons from the Korean war? Doubt it. Vietnam war? Doubt it. Iraq war? maybe. Afghanistan? Probably.

I don’t necessarily disagree with this, but this has really been the exact situation, with very few exceptions, for all of Biblical Israel’s history.

Many, if not most of the nation, engaged in all sorts of pagan worship and disobedience, yet there was always a remnant of faithful.

None of that negates God’s promises and prophecies.

My point is primarily that just because a Babylonian Talmudist claims he is a Jew, doesn't mean he is one. Even if he lives in Israel. And it is my belief that Christians should not pretend that God is pleased with murderous, lying Babylonian Talmudists, even if God will save their descendants (which we do not know, and which in my opinion, the prophecies are sufficiently vague as to be fulfilled in a number of ways).

Yes. And Gazans did not necessarily want Hamas to attack Israel. However, that does mean that they are ready to accept Israel's right to exist as a nation. I wonder how many Gazans are responsible and conscientious.

But Jesus said "with what judgement you judge you shall be judged". So I can see how for Abraham and others that might apply, but what about someone who is judging that all of Israel is corrupt because the majority of their leaders are corrupt? Wouldn't this mean that they too will be judged with the same judgement? I mean what if the majority of the leaders in their country were corrupt?

I don't really see it that way at all. I think it's a typical Western/American point of view that's somewhat jaded.
Just because a war isn't highlighted in Western/American media doesn't mean that it's of major importance in the region(s) that it's occurring in and around. You'd have to look at their local media sources to be better informed. Much of American media is, IMHO, horribly controlled and more like propaganda rags... they've all turned into the National Enquirer, but a bit more refined in presentation only. They're feeding you a narrative by selecting what you both hear and don't hear... and you seem to have bought it, hook, line, and sinker.

There are no more nations turning against Israel than there was back in 1948... to me, it seems like more are siding with Israel instead.
I also think that you're mistaken about the actual historical accounts of the formation of Israel and slant your views according to a bias. Yes, the Arabs rejected the two state "solution" that was proffered because it gave less land to them and more land to Israel than they were originally promised much earlier.

Anyway, you're welcome to your views as we all are.

Well, support it by say sending troops there as has happened since it's formation as a nation. Troops that fight and die... that kinda' support.

Secondly, yeah as more time goes by, the closer we get to Christ's return... I get that. But the constant alarmist reaction of "the end is nigh!" reminds me of Fred Sanford faking his heart attacks... "I'm comin' Elizabeth!"

Too much drama for me...

And you do not think there are proxy wars in this conflict?

Why exactly does God still need Israel?

Then why are so many US politicians duel citizens of Israel, and why are US ships and troops enroute to support the Israeli government commit war crimes and genocide? The US is controlled by Babylonian Talmudists.

Lots of evidence indeed, Jerusalem was the whore of Babylon.

The American government, and pretty much all Western governments, are thoroughly corrupt. They have been stealing the people's money for a long time. And it is more widespread than anyone suspected. Both parties are equally guilty. And until an accounting is done and accountability is restored it will continue.