10 Questions about OSAS
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I have also struggled with this question. It is not for me to judge. No doubt there are some who are truly saved, who begin to question because of Satan putting doubts in their mind or because of some false teaching.
But it does anger me when some post that to believe in eternal security leads one to live in sin or believe there is no consequences for sin.
That is a stupid statement and people that post such things should be treated accordingly.
But it does anger me when some post that to believe in eternal security leads one to live in sin or believe there is no consequences for sin.
That is a stupid statement and people that post such things should be treated accordingly.
You believe someone who acted as he did is saved? It's worth considering what the young man was like upon his departure and His return.
The parable has 3 distinct: parts the lost sheep, the lost coin, and the lost boy. And it highlights the role of the Trinity in salvation. The good Shepherd seeks and saves. The Holy Spirit cleans and enlightens. And the Father draws.
The parable has 3 distinct: parts the lost sheep, the lost coin, and the lost boy. And it highlights the role of the Trinity in salvation. The good Shepherd seeks and saves. The Holy Spirit cleans and enlightens. And the Father draws.
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To suggest he LOST his salvation (his position as a son) is what you seem to suggest which is wrong.
He did not work his way back, he was welcomed with open arms when he returned.
He lost his fellowship with his father, but not his position as a son.
We all can lose our fellowship and all the blessings that come from our father as a son when we sin, but once we become a son (saved by faith) we are always a son.
He did not work his way back, he was welcomed with open arms when he returned.
He lost his fellowship with his father, but not his position as a son.
We all can lose our fellowship and all the blessings that come from our father as a son when we sin, but once we become a son (saved by faith) we are always a son.
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Civil Disorder, typically follows Government shut down for even short periods [we have it on record for all nations]
Social Security Payments, Military Personnel, Lawmakers, many Institutions MILLION's of Citizens count on daily for food and help...ALL just stop payment.
Bills can't be paid, no food on the table, many things come into factor here. and if people are willing to storm Capital Hill (over VOTES)... then during a shutdown, where your money is cut-off, easily can lead to CIVIL DISORDER in a matter of days.
But the biggest issue I have, is cutting off support to both the USA Military and Israel War Efforts. We have American Citizens over there. and we want to CUT their Pay?
if you are MAGA, then your Prophets are Johnny in Florida + the Tennessee Preacher [Greg] who claims WITCHES sit in his Church audience...but...clearly no Holy Spirit is there if your congregation is full of WITCHES and they are COMFY enough to listen to you preach every time the Church doors are open.
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Yeah, if that is you, which you present yourself as it does....how many WITCHES do you have for friends?
Social Security Payments, Military Personnel, Lawmakers, many Institutions MILLION's of Citizens count on daily for food and help...ALL just stop payment.
Bills can't be paid, no food on the table, many things come into factor here. and if people are willing to storm Capital Hill (over VOTES)... then during a shutdown, where your money is cut-off, easily can lead to CIVIL DISORDER in a matter of days.
But the biggest issue I have, is cutting off support to both the USA Military and Israel War Efforts. We have American Citizens over there. and we want to CUT their Pay?
if you are MAGA, then your Prophets are Johnny in Florida + the Tennessee Preacher [Greg] who claims WITCHES sit in his Church audience...but...clearly no Holy Spirit is there if your congregation is full of WITCHES and they are COMFY enough to listen to you preach every time the Church doors are open.
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Yeah, if that is you, which you present yourself as it does....how many WITCHES do you have for friends?
I didn't suggest that at all. He was a natural son. The story was originally told to a Jewish audience. They were all natural sons. They all needed to become supernatural sons...needed to be saved.
By virtue of their race, they considered themselves to be the people of God. And in one regard they were. But within Israel, there was only ever a remnant that were spiritual Israel. Spiritual Israel isn't naturally attained.
But this isn't the focus of the parable. The parable primarily reveals the roles of the Trinity in salvation.
By virtue of their race, they considered themselves to be the people of God. And in one regard they were. But within Israel, there was only ever a remnant that were spiritual Israel. Spiritual Israel isn't naturally attained.
But this isn't the focus of the parable. The parable primarily reveals the roles of the Trinity in salvation.
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greg locke, julie green, Prophet" Johnny Enlow :
past 6 years these 3 alone have made over 300 Prophecies. guess how many have come to pass? and these were like make a Prophecy about 3 months from now and it's 6 years and STILL HAS NOT happened, kind of MAGA FAILURE.
JimmyTheLock
you probably own their books and support FOOLS and DEMONS like this
past 6 years these 3 alone have made over 300 Prophecies. guess how many have come to pass? and these were like make a Prophecy about 3 months from now and it's 6 years and STILL HAS NOT happened, kind of MAGA FAILURE.
JimmyTheLock
you probably own their books and support FOOLS and DEMONS like this
Actually Moses was making a lame excuse, and God was angry with him because of his lame excuses. In any event Aaron would be appointed as the spokesman for Moses: And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Moses, and he said, Is not Aaron the Levite thy brother? I know that he can speak well. And also, behold, he cometh forth to meet thee: and when he seeth thee, he will be glad in his heart. (Exod 4:14). At the same time Moses would address Pharaoh many times.
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well, hello, Chester! please forgive me if i offended you? it wasn't intentional.
i don't know your OSAS friends, but i would hope no believer would act in such a manner. shouldn't we observe fruit, rather than works?
i like your second paragraph.
may i suggest that when you were a little boy crossing the street with a parent, you may have thought it was your grip on their hand that was keeping you safe?
it's always a pleasure to see you posting, and an even greater pleasure to interact with you.
i don't know your OSAS friends, but i would hope no believer would act in such a manner. shouldn't we observe fruit, rather than works?
i like your second paragraph.
may i suggest that when you were a little boy crossing the street with a parent, you may have thought it was your grip on their hand that was keeping you safe?
it's always a pleasure to see you posting, and an even greater pleasure to interact with you.
what is this, golf?!?
There was a very complex process that determined if the do over would be granted.
Directly proportional to one's argumentative skills, followed by a promise to reciprocate said do over when your opponent needed one.
Usually the promise was reneged upon later!
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well, hello, Chester! please forgive me if i offended you? it wasn't intentional.
may i suggest that when you were a little boy crossing the street with a parent, you may have thought it was your grip on their hand that was keeping you safe?
may i suggest that when you were a little boy crossing the street with a parent, you may have thought it was your grip on their hand that was keeping you safe?
What is interesting is that you still must not get it - because you give another "story" (gripping the hand above) by which I assume you are trying to say that I (or anyone who doesn't hold to OSAS) thinks that it is our grip that saves us. How preposterous!
But that is OK - You don't have to understand - "I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day."
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They refuse to try to understand what you're saying. I've tried my hardest to lay this out for them and they refuse to have a rational conversation about it. They think we are saved, and that means from now on we are on our own to obey or lose salvation, that we MUST obey. They refuse to understand what we mean when we say after we are saved we WILL obey, by His power, lest we boast. See they teach we have something to boast about because it's our will that sanctifies us. They're on here everyday preaching a works base false gospel that heaps burden on believers and gives them a reason to have their "choice" elevated above His power. The only reason I can think of is that they do not know the power of our God in truth yet. It's sad really.
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