Israel Declares War

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cv5

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Israel winning. But of course those that don’t want to believe the truth will simply not believe.

Yes.....that is definitely how Hamas is running their operations.
Being a civilian caught in the crossfire not an accident. Quite the contrary.
 
Today, there are less than 8500. And THEY, have to basically speak in favor of the Ayatollah if they want to live.
They want to live------
Europe’s Jewish population down 60% since 1970, as low as it was 1,000 years ago
Bombshell study finds 1.3 million people who describe themselves as Jewish in continental Europe, UK, Turkey and Russia, compared to 3.2 million 50 years ago; number still falling
https://tinyurl.com/4a8w3r2w
World Jewish population drops by 300,000 to 12.9 million
The number of Jews in the world is declining with a net loss of 300,000 American Jews in the last decade, according to a new study following a preliminary examination of the recent census of American Jewry, according to the Jewish Agency’s Institute for Jewish People Policy Planning.
World Jewish population drops by 300,000 to 12.9 million (simpletoremember.com)
European Jewish population at lowest share for a millennium and declining
The study published Wednesday by the London-based Institute for Jewish Policy Research found 1.3 million people who describe themselves as Jewish in continental Europe.
https://tinyurl.com/286bpte5
Jewish Population on the Decline in America
On September 23, 2000, The Houston Chronicle reported that "if present trends continue, by the year 2080 North America's Jewish population will drop by a third, to 4 million, according to projections in the new American Jewish Year Book.
Jewish Population on the Decline in America | Pluralism Project Archive (harvard.edu)

According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."
https://tinyurl.com/svx7ztd8

if they want to live, have more babies
 
Chart and table of the Israel birth rate from 1950 to 2022. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.

  • The current birth rate for Israel in 2022 is 19.248 births per 1000 people, a 1.49% decline from 2021.
  • The birth rate for Israel in 2021 was 19.539 births per 1000 people, a 1.47% decline from 2020.
  • The birth rate for Israel in 2020 was 19.830 births per 1000 people, a 1.45% decline from 2019.
  • The birth rate for Israel in 2019 was 20.121 births per 1000 people, a 1.43% decline from 2018.
going, going, gone, never to be heard of again.
https://tinyurl.com/x68jv663


According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."
https://tinyurl.com/y6ryw6hf


Jewish population by country - Wikipedia
25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,


27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.

28 And thou, son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning the Ammonites, and concerning their reproach; even say thou, The sword, the sword is drawn: for the slaughter it is furbished, to consume because of the glittering:

29 Whiles they see vanity unto thee, whiles they divine a lie unto thee, to bring thee upon the necks of them that are slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity shall have an end.

30 Shall I cause it to return into his sheath? I will judge thee in the place where thou wast created, in the land of thy nativity.

31 And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, and skilful to destroy.

32 Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.
 

cv5

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If you actually understood the intentional types of Joseph and his brothers and Joshua and the gibeonites you would know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the ethnic sons of Jacob will be redeemed yet future.

In both cases, (Joshua and Joseph being types of Christ) there is a salvation that only occurs at the SECOND interchange/interaction.
Take heed @HeIsHere @tobewholeagain @Moses_Young .....

The first time (advent!) Joshua comes to the Gibeonites, he comes in judgement. They know they are doomed, they know that they are under judgement. But instead of judgement the Gibeonites plea for and obtain a covenant of peace. Which Joshua confirms. They are given mercy. They seek a covenant KNOWING that Jesus is good and righteous and just.
Jos 9:25
And now, behold, we are in thine hand: as it seemeth good and right unto thee to do unto us, do.

The second time (advent!) Joshua comes, he comes in a response to a call. He comes in mercy to the Gibeonites who are SURROUNDED by antagonistic Canaanite kings who all seek to destroy them BECAUSE they are under the covenant. Note: the kings seek to kill the Gibeonites....not Joshua who they KNOW they can never defeat.
Jos 10:4
Come up unto me, and help me, that we may smite Gibeon: for it hath made peace with Joshua and with the children of Israel.
Jos 10:6
And the men of Gibeon sent unto Joshua to the camp to Gilgal, saying, Slack not thy hand from thy servants; come up to us quickly, and save us, and help us: for all the kings of the Amorites that dwell in the mountains are gathered together against us.

So Joshua comes THE SECOND TIME from Gilgal and with a great slaughter destroys the enemy armies, Jesus leading the battle, bombarding the enemy with great stones and halting the moon and sun (long NIGHT of Joshua). Gibeonites are saved from certain and total annihilation.

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Joseph is thought to be dead but ASCENDS OUT OF A PIT and saves the entire world from starvation. The FIRST TIME the nation of Israel comes to him, he is speaking a way they DON'T UNDERSTAND.........a foreign language (parables!).
The second time the Israelites come, Joseph REVEALS HIMSELF and in love and mercy saves the entire nation.

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Yes, Jesus saves the nation Israel at His SC. Any other view wrong and biblically illiterate, if not willful rebellion and Satanic lies.
 

cv5

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When Moses murders that man, was that an accident too
:)-
Take heed @HeIsHere @tobewholeagain @Moses_Young .....

Mat 14:30
But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.

A type of Israel in the end times.

Jhn 21:17
He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

Simeon (one must understand ALL THE SIMEONS) cannot be put into service UNTIL he corrects his doctrine and recognizes Christ for Who He really is.....omnicient God.

Jhn 21:17
He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

Luk 13:35
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, UNTIL the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

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The diligent and believing know these things.

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Mat 13:11
He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Lucky me huh?
 

cv5

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Chart and table of the Israel birth rate from 1950 to 2022. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.

  • The current birth rate for Israel in 2022 is 19.248 births per 1000 people, a 1.49% decline from 2021.
  • The birth rate for Israel in 2021 was 19.539 births per 1000 people, a 1.47% decline from 2020.
  • The birth rate for Israel in 2020 was 19.830 births per 1000 people, a 1.45% decline from 2019.
  • The birth rate for Israel in 2019 was 20.121 births per 1000 people, a 1.43% decline from 2018.
going, going, gone, never to be heard of again.
https://tinyurl.com/x68jv663


According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."
https://tinyurl.com/y6ryw6hf


Jewish population by country - Wikipedia
25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,


27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.

28 And thou, son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning the Ammonites, and concerning their reproach; even say thou, The sword, the sword is drawn: for the slaughter it is furbished, to consume because of the glittering:

29 Whiles they see vanity unto thee, whiles they divine a lie unto thee, to bring thee upon the necks of them that are slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity shall have an end.

30 Shall I cause it to return into his sheath? I will judge thee in the place where thou wast created, in the land of thy nativity.

31 And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, and skilful to destroy.

32 Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.
Jesus comes with and for TWO KINDS OF DELIVERANCE:

To the Gibeonites He comes for deliverance.........to eternal service.
To the Canaanite kings he come for deliverance to..........eternal death.

Choose wisely.
 

posthuman

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i not being an apologist.

but just like when we read the Bible, we need to understand, what is Israel's perspective?

they have very difficult choices to make and their path is very complex.

they are the chosen nation of God.
this is something to carefully watch, withholding judgement.

((imo))
 

Magenta

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Israel winning. But of course those that don’t want to believe the truth will simply not believe.

But, but... HeIsHere thinks babies should be able to give consent before they can be used as human shields .:unsure:

Who should I believe? :rolleyes::ROFL:
 

posthuman

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I use the disagree response usually when it would be a waste of words bothering to argue, as either myself or someone else has already refuted the fallacy a number of times previously, or else the claim is so obviously wrong, it should not have been brought to the table in the first place.
Hmm that is not my experience.

in the flat earth threads you frequent, you put red X on facts, and never have any valid arguments that you state against them.
 

posthuman

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. I know which crime all of those murdered civilians would have preferred.
yeah.

they'd prefer the murders their own people commit against Israeli citizens continue, without retribution.

this is called "untenable" - a word i scarcely believe a flatist comprehends.

((yup that's a barb. red x's without explanation are invitations to discord, and in my experience, that's your preference))
 

posthuman

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I'm not sure where you keep getting this claim of "replacement theology" from. Are Christians grafted in, or not? Or do you believe there are two vines?
"grafted in" indicates exactly one root/trunk/vine.

not two.

shall the grafted in branch complain against the root? foolishness!

so the only explanation ((giving the benefit of doubt that you aren't an idiot)) is that if you have no. fear of cursing the rioty, you probably think you have replaced the root.

The logic is straightforward.

red X incoming, lol