Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

Every death or injury, all the suffering of Gazans and Israelis, is entirely the responsibility of Hamas. Even the Russians are not putting missile launchers in hospital car parks. They just attack civilian targets in Ukraine instead. I don't see a lot of outrage against that. Nobody marches in the streets in protest. You want to know why? The world hates Israel because it hates God. Israel is the visible evidence of God's power to keep His word.

vengeance gets you no where,

you still haven't established if I support terrorism or hamas or Isreal,

No what you've done is assumed and believed your assumption, and now your making your assumption your approval for being dogmatic, this is also how evil operates

Looks like I am worth replying to👸

You are really naive. Self defence is not vengeance. What is your solution? Palestinians only want one thing. That is the end of Israel as a state. It is the death of every Jew. This has been plan A since the 1920's, before Israel was a nation. There is no plan B as far as Palestinians are concerned.

It's unfortunate that the conversation has left the arena of truth, and gone to rhetoric. Killing Hamas isn't ethnic cleansing..

death toll of Palestinians children which has been officially recorded by Gazza doctors at 4800 in 4 weeks.

Also a total 120000 one hundred and twenty thousand Palestinians have been murdered by the current leader of Isreal

If you can't see it's not ethnic cleansing maybe you can see it's genocide 🙄

Israel isn't deliberately or indiscriminately killing Palestinians. They are after Hamas. And hopefully this time, they don't stop until Hamas is no more.

Why BBC doesn't call Hamas militants 'terrorists' - John Simpson
Watch the 3 minute interview
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67083432



11 October 2023
Government ministers, newspaper columnists, ordinary people - they're all asking why the BBC doesn't say the Hamas gunmen who carried out appalling atrocities in southern Israel are terrorists.
The answer goes right back to the BBC's founding principles.
Terrorism is a loaded word, which people use about an outfit they disapprove of morally. It's simply not the BBC's job to tell people who to support and who to condemn - who are the good guys and who are the bad guys.
We regularly point out that the British and other governments have condemned Hamas as a terrorist organisation, but that's their business. We also run interviews with guests and quote contributors who describe Hamas as terrorists.
The key point is that we don't say it in our voice. Our business is to present our audiences with the facts, and let them make up their own minds.

During the 50 years I've been reporting on events in the Middle East, I've seen for myself the aftermath of attacks like this one in Israel, and I've also seen the aftermath of Israeli bomb and artillery attacks on civilian targets in Lebanon and Gaza. The horror of things like that stay in your mind forever.
But this doesn't mean that we should start saying that the organisation whose supporters have carried them out is a terrorist organisation, because that would mean we were abandoning our duty to stay objective.
And it's always been like this in the BBC. During World War Two, BBC broadcasters were expressly told not to call the Nazis evil or wicked, even though we could and did call them "the enemy".

but yet if your child got killed would you say it's ok Isreal was after Hamas.

but yet if your child got killed would you say it's ok Isreal was after Hamas.

well no it's a more of a educated evaluation.

I see 120 countries have voted for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire. But Isreal continue to ignore.

Judging by all the children that have been killed in past conflicts,

I have a strong feeling that theese leaders are knowingly feeding and satisfying baals thirst for the sacrifice of innocent blood, especially children..

As well, if your baal you would know that the lord detests innocent blood being sacrificed but yet this holy nation voted by here as the legitimate holy Isreal, keeps mass murdering.

And our Christian friends here seem to go to the eye for eye and a tooth for a tooth scripture.

I wonder if I'm discussing with hardcore Judaism here or Christianity.

Sorta like the holocaust all over again, huh? Germany didn't want the Jews, but neither did anywhere else.

It's an emotional issue for you. I get that. There is a place for sentimentality and everyone should be sickened by the senseless loss of life. But I'm only concerned for a solution. Within that solution, I am concerned for the lowest amount of loss of life.
The solution, in my opinion, is to destroy Hamas. And once that is a reality, some presence will be necessary to insure no other group is allowed to come in and create the same situation again. This will make for conditions to exist where innocent lives will never again be an issue. And while it will mean there will be more civilian lives lost in the present, it will save countless times more lives in the future.
I don't believe this is a perfect solution, but merely the best of all the bad choices. A ceasefire only ensures that civilian losses will continue now and in the future. This is neither humane or moral. It's merely sentimental and isn't an actual solution.
Regarding how other nations defend their atrocities, I'll be glad to address those on the basis of each case and circumstances, if you like.

I wonder, Cameron, if you think humanity can destroy Hamas? Some army, perhaps, current day the IDF? But the ideology that drives Hamas is enshrined in the Koran. Is Hamas not just one of many entities set up to destroy Israel? Oh, yeah, they are instructed to kill Christians too. They are positioning themselves to do that as well. But I digress. Can any human power stop this movement of anti Christ?

It strikes me that defending its posterity is defending insanity. As if to say,
'let it alone, give it freedom to do as it will. After all, it's only just insane."

A great deception has been perpetrated upon the world: "Islam is a religion of peace."

How ironic that even Christians defend it, when Muslims are explicitly instructed to kill us.

Embracing the lie is likened to embracing a python. It's only trying to 'cuddle' with you.

yeah bring demons into it and cover up children being killed and demonise me whilst your at it.

Yup that's a great Isreal allright