Ball Earth conundrums

And that's pretty much how discussions go with flat earthers. Totally clueless, but they are still waiting for confirmation.

Gary, I hope when you talk to yourself, you will at least be smarter, than that other guy. lol

Oh, none of them can prove anything. They’re merely a place to start looking for a different angle than the FE theory.

Here in Texas we have a lot of airports. @GaryA, you live in Texas, don’t you? Let’s say you go out to the international airport just north of Houston, then you find a flight en route to, say Dubai. You type down the flight number on your phone and open Flightradar24, then you find that flight on the map FR24 provides and then look at the stipulated route from Houston to Dubai. They always pick the shortest alternative to save fuel and time.

The problem is that FE is demonstrably wrong. The absolute majority accept that the earth is a globe. OK, so 34% of millenials believe that the earth is flat. Must be all the COVID vaccines affecting their brains.

"Nearly one-third of millennials have some type of behavioral health problem. They're more likely to suffer from depression than their elders."

https://mentalhealthfoundation.org/...millennials,from depression than their elders.


"Survey Finds Most Millennials Take at Least 1 Prescription Medication Daily"

https://gritdaily.com/survey-finds-most-millennials-take-at-least-1-prescription-medication-daily/

I did post earlier, that prescription drugs maybe a factor in believing in flat earth, as well as learning disabilities, and being in denial.

So which of these is the honest answer? The above one where you admit there is no comparable model for gravity keeping water on a spinning ball, or the below one (which you used prior to me calling you out) where you obfuscated this fact, and pretended that water on a ball would be dry "without a single droplet being shed due to centrifugal force". Yes, the statement was technically correct, but it did not answer the question asked, and does not give the real-world result (that gravity, rather than centrifugal force, will get that ball dry rather quickly). I won't even go into the deception of selecting a tennis ball in your example, rather than something like a basketball. Bold highlighting mine.

Bandwagon logical fallacy. The number of adherents to any belief has no bearing on its truthfulness.

Learn how to read. In the first post you quoted, I used the word ‘force’; you misquoted it as ‘model’. The rest of your argument is baseless therefore.

No, because it was your model and description that was deceptive, not your use of the word force. I posted your exact quote for transparency. Stop trying to avoid the point I made (and maybe learn some reading comprehension?!)

Your point is irrelevant because you don’t understand what I wrote. I know perfectly well what I wrote, and there is no deception in it.

Close, but no cookie.

Gideon was not basing the validity of his statement on the fact that it is held by a majority of people. He made separate assertions. Had he used the word "because" or something similar in between, your criticism would be valid.

Of course, you'll just put an X on this too, because doing so temporarily assuages your impotent rage at being unable either to defend your position or effectively attack ours.

I agree. The increasing number of millenials who believe the earth is flat does not make it so.

These people are the future leaders of the free world, business people, lawyers, judges and politicians. I'm 72 so I do not expect to see a millenial president of America. I'm happy about that. No wonder Americans are voting for geriatrics. It's the best they've got. OK, that's a bit mean. Boston Dynamics is making robot soldiers. It's no wonder. Most young Americans of military age are unfit to serve.

Lesson Learned - make absolute sure that you "cover all the bases" and "leave nothing out" before you postulate something.

And, that being said, I would advise all FE folks everywhere to let the tennis ball thing die a harsh death in its tracks and never be mentioned again - at least not until you have had the opportunity for your personal research to cover every last possible imaginable related detail - resulting in a very solid unbreakable conclusion. (I personally do not believe that it is a sound-enough illustration for a Ball Earth conundrum.)

I seriously doubt that - altimeters or sonar detection of the water surface would make sense, however.

How would a missile determine the 'curvature' in order to utilize it? Otherwise, your suggestion has a "math-only" frame of reference with no relation to the physical reality.

The claim: Laser tests show bodies of water are level, which proves the Earth is flat
Scientists have ample evidence to prove the Earth is a sphere. But some social media users claim to have devised an experiment showing the earth is flat.
The post shows a green laser beam projected over a body of water. It also includes a diagram showing how the distance between a straight laser beam and the water below should increase as the beam travels further away from its source as a result of the curve of the Earth.
“Earth is flat. Water at rest does not deviate from level,” claims a Nov. 27 Instagram post (direct link, archive link).
But the claim is false.
Scientists say that the post’s logic is flawed and that laser tests in uncontrolled conditions are not a reliable way to prove the Earth's shape. That’s because environmental factors can cause a laser beam to bend, or refract – especially over water. Furthermore, scientists said that experiments utilizing laser beams in controlled conditions, and on a larger scale than the diagram in the post, actually prove the Earth is curved.

As long as everyone insists on turning this into a flat earth thread - this video is one of the best combination Ball Earth conundrum and Flat Earth proof presentations that I am aware of - give it a watch and listen - it is only 10 or so minutes long...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2hukYYfqDg

Its interesting that a laser stays level at great distances. But yet its immediately dismissed.

He's got a point about the temperature differences of north and south.

Try looking at flights from southern-most cities to other southern-most cities - the ones that begin and end in the 'southern hemisphere' on two different continents.