The End Times: Who is the Beast and the Antichrist?

I know that this question was not posed to me, but I will quickly begin to answer it.

Revelation chapter 13

"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear. He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

In this chapter, we clearly see two different beasts or kingdoms (Daniel 7:17, 23).

1. A beast rising up out of the sea, who is "the first beast," or "the first beast before him" (the "another beast" which comes after him in time).
2. Another beast coming up out of the earth.

In regard to the first beast, we read that one of his heads was wounded to death, and his deadly wound was healed, or whose deadly wound was healed, or which had the wound by a sword, and did live. I could easily prove to you, from both the Bible and recorded history, that this beast's wound has already been healed, and exactly who this beast is. Not only this, but this helps us to properly identify the "another beast" who appears on the scene after "the first beast" chronologically.

Anyhow, both beasts or kingdoms will be in existence together in the last days (and they already are), and the "another beast" will work in conjunction with "the first beast" in that he will not only say to them that dwell on the earth that they should make an image to "the first beast," but he will also cause all to receive the mark of the (first) beast or the mark of the kingdom which preceded his kingdom.

Sorry, but I do not have the time to elaborate further right now.

Hope this helps.

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I'm truly surprised that no one is posting against that false prophecy except me though. This forum is well versed in the Rapture and its various positions of No-. Pre-, Mid-, and Post-Tribulation Rapture. So the silence on other areas of study on the end times is quite significant and I think strange.🍄

Sure. I believe the 4 kingdoms began with Babylon, then the Medes and Persians, then Greece, then Rome.
But what I'm interested to know from folks is their breakdown of the book of Revelation. Everyone has a perspective of how certain passages breakdown. But I haven't seen anyone begin with a general view of the book, God's purpose for writing the book, a general outline of the book, and how it all fits together. I'm looking for a view from 10,000 feet; not a flyover. I'm doing reconnaissance; not engaging in the fray.

It’s a narrative based upon Old Testament prophecy to show us what the future holds and give us hope of the coming of Jesus Christ.

when John really begins to see things it’s important for us to realize this part

“After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭4:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

what I mean by narrative based on ot prophecy is all of the images he sees like a lamb that was slain and yet lived with seven eyes and seven horns which are the seven spirits of God sent into earth ?

All of those images have roots and are understood through Old Testament proohecy that what gives those images relevant meaning In Order for us to hear the narrative being given to believers about the world we live in and the enemies we face and the eventual outcome for us which we see in chapter 21-22

i personally believe every chapter of what John sees when he’s taken up and also chapter One nearly every section of scripture all of the things we see happening are explained in the ot of we here those things and then read revelation it makes sense much moreso because we inderrrsns what the lamb means , what the trumpets are for , what the sealed book is , who the root of David is , the lion of Judah , on and on who are the beasts mentioned later on the book ?

i believe it’s a narrative of what has always and what was happening and what would happen in the world pertaining to Christian’s and Jews especially from the time John saw the visions and wrote the book to the end of the world and beginning of the new

It’s several seperate visions that form a narrative based on ot prophets and what they saw and heard as well as John and also I do t see it as a chronological timeline but layers based upon the seven seals , seven trumpets and seven bowls being viewed one upon the other rether than linear as one continual timeline


wow I feel now like i should explain the “ flux capacitor “ and how I need at least “one point twenty one jiggawats “ in order to maker work lol sorry brother that was an attempt at simple lol

Overall I agree, but some things I see differently. That's why I wanted to start at 10,000 feet. The book is indeed filled with imagery from the OT and the key to understanding it lies in the 0T. But the language, I believe, would have been easily understood by first century Jews. I do and don't see the book as chronological. That is, it does in an ordered way lay out what God's purpose is in writing the book and this follows somewhat closely the history of Israel. But it also follows the history of God's plan for humanity and the purpose of linking this with one particular race collectively initially, and then to all the world on an individual basis.
If that sounds confusing, we can move on to the flux capacitor.

Overall I agree, but some things I see differently. That's why I wanted to start at 10,000 feet. The book is indeed filled with imagery from the OT and the key to understanding it lies in the 0T. But the language, I believe, would have been easily understood by first century Jews. I do and don't see the book as chronological. That is, it does in an ordered way lay out what God's purpose is in writing the book and this follows somewhat closely the history of Israel. But it also follows the history of God's plan for humanity and the purpose of linking this with one particular race collectively initially, and then to all the world on an individual basis.
If that sounds confusing, we can move on to the flux capacitor.

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No. The woman is MYSTERY BABYLON and the beast is Satan.

Revelation 17:

1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, “Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

So what will the angel show us? It's the judgment and what will happen to her, not the whore.

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabiters of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”

These kings of the earth are our own leaders and they like to play along with her evil ways.

3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

This woman is conducting her dirty business with the whole world.

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

This woman is Mystery Babylon.

And in chapter 18:

3 "For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury."

4. And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.

Lol amen I think to all you said , but haha “ Marty gun it to 88”

“But the language, I believe, would have been easily understood by first century Jews.”

indeed the first century Jews lived and breathed the Old Testament scriptures it was thier culture and heritage thisnis why they did understand the language in my estimation they began hearing the scriptures as children and believed it to be thier history and heritage as the Hebrew people they just had this happen to them

“For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.

And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: and the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭29:10-12 ‭KJV‬‬

what I meant by not linear continual bit layers based on the seals trumpets and vials

a seal

“And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; and said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭6:12-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

a trumpet

“And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭11:15, 18-19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

a vial

“And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭16:17-18, 20-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the whole revelation pertaining to this particular matter of the throne and judgement appearing completed

“And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:11-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬


There’s a lot more to what I’m saying but I hope this illustrates my confusing stance lol I see it like the seals trumpets and vials are simultaneous each is providing a layer ofnunderrrsndong of the actual narrative he’s seeing happen on earth did you notice that after the two visions we see a narrative about a war on heaven and then another war on earth between the beast and the saints ?

There’s a whole narrative around this war woven through the book the whole Bible really but in revelation it seems to me anyways to be revealed by layers in several chi sins meant to be considered together not as in a linear story but layers of understanding the Bible and what Jesus had to say

I agree that the seals, trumpets and vials are important. But I understand their importance to be not the signaling of time, but mark division of God's explanation of history and how He is moving forward.

Uhh, the seals, trumps and vials are all future. You can actually read about the seals in the Olivet Prophecy (Mathew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21). Awesome.

I certainly respect that that is your understanding. How do you understand chapter 5 and the book being sealed and noone being able to open it and then One was? Who is that referring to and when?

Jesus.

Uhh, the seals, trumps and vials are all future. You can actually read about the seals in the Olivet Prophecy (Mathew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21). Awesome.

Jesus.

When?

When what?