Israel Declares War

I think you are conflating Jewish people with the state of Israel.

I expect better from you.

It is actually those who do not support the corrupt government of Israel as another tool of bad USA foreign policy that care about the Jewish people.

They stand just as much in harms way as their government pursues a path of self-destruction.

Btw has not nothing to do with amill.

Well , you just defined why amil belief is so pernicious.

There is NO difference between the two! That’s the whole ball of wax.

And we’re not talking about the government. No government is good. But Jews in the Land IS Israel.

Not sorry that the amil position is unwilling to send billions of dollars from our broken economy and our young men to kill for and die in a blood fued between other nations that are as corrupt as any nation on earth. While we have critical issues to deal with here. Just because dispensationalist want to bow down and worship at the feet of imposter israel that is really just another nation state, that hates Christians.

We strongly oppose the attacking and murder of civilians on both sides and see them both as wicked and corrupt.

Yep, the amil doctrine justifies why you don't have to pay a price. So the question is which came first, the desire to not pay a price, or the doctrine.

Reminds me of how they justified slavery in the US with the bible. The bible condemned the practice both in the OT and the NT, but didn't matter, they were able to twist scriptures to give themselves a fig leave for their sin.

Pay what price? This post is a little far fetched.

So what is your solution for stopping these terrorists? harsh words?

It is ridiculous to think that the children dying in Gaza are collateral damage or that they are human shields.

The IDF are not that good, they have no clue what they are doing and have no plan.
Even is one looks at the ratio #of children to #Hamas killed it is obvious the intention is one of terrorizing the inhabitants of Gaza.

They bombed the lines of people fleeing to the north, even as they told them to go north. They have bombed ambulances and have killed reporters.

Time will show them guilty of war crimes. Not only is there indiscriminate bombing they have deliberately rationed food/water to starvation levels before October 7 and have killed innocent civilians trying to bring aid via flotillas.

Every sacrifice in the OT, whether it was a peace offering, sin offering, trespass offering, etc. They had to pay a price. Jesus on the cross had to pay a price. Jesus told us if you want to follow Him you must take up your cross, that means you must pay the price.

How absurd that Christianity no longer teaches "believers" the need to pay a price.

Hebrews 11 gives us many hero's of the faith and the price they paid.

If you knew history you would know that the Jews and Muslims had a very good trading and political relationship for many years.

It is actually the interference of "western" powers over the years that has destabilized the region.

Israel is showing snippets of what apparently happened the damage; destroyed and burnt-out building and infrastructure on 7 Oct, wasn’t done by machine guns and grenades - done by tanks and air fire. They are people coming out and admitting that Israelies were fired upon by thier own military. Its in the Israeli media, not in the main stream media in UK or USA, why?

https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters/

C'mon Smoke... somebody voted them in. I doubt that Scandinavians did, pretty sure it was Palestinians, and I'd guess that many, if not most of them that did are still very much alive.

If Biden can be "voted" into the government of the country which is said to be the beacon of freedom for the world, how much more is the rest of the world's governments corrupt, and not a matter of the people's will?

I think this is a perfect example of how ordinary Germans supported the Nazis, though. Here we are, 80 odd years later. The new Nazi regime is Israel, the new Jews are the Palestinians. And people (claiming to be Christians) are justifying the holocaust of these people, because the powerful nation of Israel stood it's military down for 7 hours (or so) in order to enable its enemy (allegedly, if it wasn't a partial or total false flag) to carry out its attack on dune buggies and gliders.

No one would have had any qualms about Israel defending itself then. Only, it didn't. It deliberately stood its military down, in order that it could attack later, and attempt to genocide innocent civilians, women and children. And people are trying to claim this is self defense. Such people have absolutely no right to condemn (real) Nazis or the Germans who supported them in the least, or even the terrorists who they claim started this whole saga. They are supporting exactly the same thing.

This post is absurd.
Take up your cross and follow me does not mean sending young men to war for another nations blood fued. That is an abuse of scripture unparalleled by any of the absurdities ever asserted in this forum.

I would like to see any evidence of this happening.
I absolutely disagree with your comparing the Israelis to the Nazis. You either don't know history, or you are deliberately exaggerating to try to make a point. Either one is pretty shameful, IMO.

This post is absurd.
Take up your cross and follow me does not mean sending young men to war for another nations blood fued. That is an abuse of scripture unparalleled by any of the absurdities ever asserted in this forum.

Thank you, I was thinking it was pretty ridiculous myself.

Then simply answer the question...morally, what is the difference in value?