about Suicide

@JimmyTheLock
That's how we should live... being sensitive to the Holy Spirit... who will actually warn us before we sin if we are in tune with Him, so we don't do the sin!

I agree.
It's taking time.
I'm growing in Christ, learning to be more sensitive to the Holy Spirit's promptings & warnings.
I've only trusted Christ for a few years, so I've a lot of maturing to do.
I still make mistakes and sin. I'm developing self-control, a fruit of the Spirit.
Conviction brings me to confess & I'm forgiven. I'm in Christ, I won't be condemned.
No way do I have freedom to live in sin. Nothing could be further from the truth.
There's no such thing as instant maturity.

Is there a country in Europe called Arminia by chance?

That would've been quite difficult as Calvin was long dead before Arminus was capable of debate.

Nobody said it would be easy!!!

I would like to publicly recant and repent about calling you a fool... while the dictionary description of "fool" fits you to a "t", I should not have called you that.

I should have said you are ignorant of life, and mental illnesses, and there is no milk of human kindness in you. Your pious insistence on damning believers to hell is indicative of your hateful, prideful spirit. I believe "idiot" is a better descriptive term for your claims and behavior.

Stop it you lot or I'll get a stitch rotfl-ing

@FRB72
Thanks for those.
I've saved them on watch later for tomorrow, Lord's Day.

Those that murder themselves are NOT walking in faith... so, no faith means no grace!

As Eph 2:8 clearly states.... we are saved by grace THRU faith, so no faith mean one has no further access to grace.




I did not write any of the scripture that was posted... so you'll have to argue with the Lord about why He considers murder to be a sin.




So it's all good if we get tired of this life and blow our brains out?

The Lord suddenly ignores His own Word and becomes a liar???

Anyone who has a broken heart and does not submit to the Lord and get fixed, has made a very grave error as this is rejecting the Lord.




That's God's business... meanwhile it's false doctrine to go around telling people that a Christian can murder themselves and still go to Heaven.

As a matter of doctrine, those that murder themselves do not inherit God's Kingdom based on what the Lord has already said in His Word.

If we tell people that one can kill themselves and go be with Jesus... then let's pass the pistol around at church so everyone can whack themselves and go on home to be with the Lord!

Suici9de is either a blessing from the Lord or a deception from the devil to separate people from God... which is it?





Yeah, claiming one can murder themselves and still go to Heaven is definitely being a cherry picker and rejecting scripture that does not fit in to one's preconceived ideas.




Fictional stories are meaningless against God's Word.




It' listening to the devil is what it is... in my younger years 'ol slwefoot tried very hard to get me to off myself after I had become a Christian.

The fix was found in doing what Jesus said....

Mark 16:17
these signs shall follow them that believe; In MY Name shall they cast out devils

It comes down to who are we going to listen to and follow? Jesus or satan?






I know all about it.... you should go back and study how God cannot lie!




Any sin where one does not confess and turn away from... it still applicable to the person doing the sin.

1 John 1:9 clearly says IF you confess your sins the Lord will cleans you of all unrighteousness.

If one does not, then they are not cleansed from unrighteousness and if they die in that condition it's... curtains.




Yews, and God has already spoken concerning this subject.

It's sad that some seem to think the Lord is a liar and will ignore His own Word and can be mocked by claiming we do not reap what we sow (Gal 6:"7,8).





You must believe in universalism then... anybody that is deceived by the devil in to turning away from the Lord is saved?

The problem here is some are allowing their emotions and feelings to tell them what to believe rather than what the Lord has already said in His Word.

In other words, let's throw what God said in the trash just because we don't "feel" like His Word is in fact Truth that does not change!

That's exactly how the devil is hoping people will do right there... as this causes God's Word to be choked out of their lives so they turn away from the Lord which is sowing to the flesh which is reaping corruption... which is unrighteousness

Gal 6:7,8 tells us it is mocking God to claim we do not reap what we sow... as God cannot be mocked.

This is code for.... God sometimes does not mean what He says... we just cannot rely upon the Truthfulness of God's Word!




You claim is the Holy Spirit was not there for them... and they had no access to God's Word???





I went to Mars one time... had tea with the Martians! View attachment 256914




Sorry... what you say is OUT, and what the Lord says is IN!

1 Corinthians 3:16,17
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
If any man destroys the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

People such as yourself that speak favorably of suicide... are very likely to go whack themselves.

Anytime folks reject what the Lord says... you know they are listening to the devil!
If they were listening to the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ... they would be accepting what the Lord says!

This is not rocket science... it's simply either being led by the Holy Spirit or being led by demons.




So you're good with popular preachers telling the living they should they decide to whack themselves they will go to Heaven... which is encouraging more suicide?

By not countering the lies of the false preachers who claim suicide leads to Heaven.... we have blood on our hands!




According to Jesus... this person will not be forgiven...meaning, they will not go to Heaven

Matthew 6:15
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Jesus said this because of Gal 6:7,8 so do we think Jesus is telling the truth, or not???

God is not mocked, what we sow is what we reap.... if we sow to the flesh we shall reap corruption - - - if we sow UN-forgiveness, we shall reap UN-forgiveness.

To say otherwise is mocking God according to Gal 6:7,8

Galatians 6:7,8
Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.
For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

What the person should have done is forgive the driver... that's what Jesus did on the Cross and He is the model we are to follow.



Actually we are told by the Lord to judge a righteous judgement (John 7:24) and we do that by taking God at His Word understanding that it's impossible for Him to lie

I lost a friend to suicide last year. I think people get mixed up on this because of their theology of salvation. The idea is (I believe) that if you die with one unconfessed and unrepented sin on your account, that you would be lost. As suicide is self-murder, that would then fall to your account. But not so fast….

What of the genuine, born again Christian caught in a car accident where they died in a car accident due to another car whose driver had been high on drugs. The Christian in their last moments feels anger and hate towards the man in the weaving truck and dies with a swear word on their tongue, calling the person a fool in the strongest terms.

God sees our whole lives, even our worst sins. We perceive our lives in a linear fashion but that’s not how God appears to operate. We are told not to judge for a reason.

I lost a friend to suicide last year. I think people get mixed up on this because of their theology of salvation. The idea is (I believe) that if you die with one unconfessed and unrepented sin on your account, that you would be lost. As suicide is self-murder, that would then fall to your account. But not so fast….

What of the genuine, born again Christian caught in a car accident where they died in a car accident due to another car whose driver had been high on drugs. The Christian in their last moments feels anger and hate towards the man in the weaving truck and dies with a swear word on their tongue, calling the person a fool in the strongest terms.

God sees our whole lives, even our worst sins. We perceive our lives in a linear fashion but that’s not how God appears to operate. We are told not to judge for a reason.

Those in Hell/Hades still have a chance to call on the Name of Jesus Christ

Tell me do you really understand the cost? do you know the soul shattering mourning? do you know the heart bleeding for the unsaved who end up in hell?

Still three of the best teachings I have listened to!

for an obvious reason. Why send anyone to the quack for primitive medicine when he all Jesus had to do was say it and have instant results?

Sadly, you have no scripture for purgatory.... once one leaves their body they either go north or south and their fate is sealed at that point.

Jesus never taught purgatory and He never taught purgatory thru His Apostles he used to pen the New Testament.... purgatory is nothing more that a catholic fantasy among numerous fale teachings that come from the catholics.





Actually I do... which is why I'd like folks to be informed on what God's Word says so they have opportunity to NOT end up in hell.

Love demands that people be told the Truth... what God says in His Word is Truth.

These that don't care about others or have been deceived themselves in to rejecting the Truth of God's Word... are part of the problem.

I'm simply telling people "whatever you do, do NOT commit suicide because if you do you will go to hell!" so they have opportunity to know what actually happens to them if they decide to blow their brains out.

The devil is the one going around teaching people thatthey go to Heaven if they whack themselves cause it's all part of his efforts to get as many people in to hell as he possibly can. That's his deal.

None the less... God is not mocked, what we sow is what we reap (Gal 6:7,8)

1 Corinthians 3:16,17
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
If any man destroys the temple of God, him shall God DESTROY; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

The devil is making a big push now to make suicide seem to be OK and to normalize it with euthanasia becoming legal in numerous states and in other nations such as in Canada.

This does NOT change what the Lord has said in His Word...

One has to do what Adam and Eve did in the garden to believe suicide is OK... which is to ignore what the Lord says and listen to the devil instead.
And just like the Lord foretold in His Word... deception is the greatest danger in the end times (Matt 24) View attachment 257013

So, did Samson not kill himself, along with many of his enemies? Did not God Himself enable Samson to do so?

Sadly, you have no scripture for purgatory.... once one leaves their body they either go north or south and their fate is sealed at that point.

Jesus never taught purgatory and He never taught purgatory thru His Apostles he used to pen the New Testament.... purgatory is nothing more that a catholic fantasy among numerous fale teachings that come from the catholics.





Actually I do... which is why I'd like folks to be informed on what God's Word says so they have opportunity to NOT end up in hell.

Love demands that people be told the Truth... what God says in His Word is Truth.

These that don't care about others or have been deceived themselves in to rejecting the Truth of God's Word... are part of the problem.

I'm simply telling people "whatever you do, do NOT commit suicide because if you do you will go to hell!" so they have opportunity to know what actually happens to them if they decide to blow their brains out.

The devil is the one going around teaching people thatthey go to Heaven if they whack themselves cause it's all part of his efforts to get as many people in to hell as he possibly can. That's his deal.