Tell me if I have this right about your idea of what happens in heaven

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JohnB said:
I have never been married. The thought of becoming one flesh is extremely important to me.....to never being alone again
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If it helps, we'll all be in a state of 'joy unspeakable and full of glory' therešŸ¤© Also, spiritual unity in Christ. I don't think we'll be getting it on there, we'll already be in a state of bliss and gratitude. Btw you remind me of Pres BidenšŸ˜Ž
 
Blain

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JohnB said:
Did you read the article I posted? Have you read Genesis 6?
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Yes I did but now I am not concerned with any of that this isn't about sex or male and female this is coming from a deep longing and and you have clearly been hurting inside for a long time. I just want to help you get through and see if I can help mend that inner damage
 
JohnB

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Blain said:
Oh I understand now I apologize for being so stern. is it ok if we pm I want to see if I can help you
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I have been going through this for decades, the only one who can fix this is GOD. It was very hard in church to talk to other christians who would tell me, "John you need more of Jesus", "John you only need Jesus" John, you get to spend more time with Jesus" John you just need to put Jesus first"......clearly Jesus wasn't enough for them, they got married and had a family. I actually had a pastor's wife tell me, "John, you need a wife, you're married to Jesus"
 
JohnB

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TabinRivCA said:
If it helps, we'll all be in a state of 'joy unspeakable and full of glory' therešŸ¤© Also, spiritual unity in Christ. I don't think we'll be getting it on there, we'll already be in a state of bliss and gratitude. Btw you remind me of Pres BidenšŸ˜Ž
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Jesus was very clear, we will be eating, drinking, working, have homes....the one thing YOU don't want in heaven is sex. why not?
 
Blain

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JohnB said:
I have been going through this for decades, the only one who can fix this is GOD. It was very hard in church to talk to other christians who would tell me, "John you need more of Jesus", "John you only need Jesus" John, you get to spend more time with Jesus" John you just need to put Jesus first"......clearly Jesus wasn't enough for them, they got married and had a family. I actually had a pastor's wife tell me, "John, you need a wife, you're married to Jesus"
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We are to comfort and encourage each other for a reason sometimes God uses his children rather than intervene personally. I am not going to say any of that to you my heart hurts for you
 
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Blain said:
We are to comfort and encourage each other for a reason sometimes God uses his children rather than intervene personally. I am not going to say any of that to you my heart hurts for you
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Late here, got to call it a night.
 
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JohnB said:
Late here, got to call it a night.
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Ok just know that if you allow it I can help you even from here I can feel what your going through inside you have had a very hard time and people have let you down not understanding but please don't be afraid to take help you say only God can help you but your going through all this on your own
 
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I know that I will have better things to do in heaven other than having physical intimacy with other people.

I'm extremely limited here...I want the freedom and ability to do more that exists only in heaven...
Having sex in heaven? Ridiculousness....much better ways to spend your time...which is eternity.
 
Mem

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Perishable and corruptible is the current status of the body wherein the world to come is imperishable and incorruption. Nothing will rot or go bad. Fruit will remain ever fresh until consumed and "the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father (Matthew 13:43)." So if you were to throw an apple into the sun, the apple would be totally consumed and converted into energy. And so there would be no need for a crapper, and I'm not so sure we would even produce spit anymore, since its purpose is to help 'break down' food. Also, another argument against blood in the resurrected body is the law of uncleanness although it may simple be that it still exists but is made somehow clean. Anyway, why would ovaries still produce considering there is only a limited amount of them each woman is allotted, and function of the loins becomes irrelevant apart from the burdensome filtering of waste.

So, @JohnB, if you'd stop "priming the pump' so much, the reservoir will be allowed to 'settle' back down to a normal level and get a bit of rest from working so feverishly.
 
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JohnB said:
I have been going through this for decades, the only one who can fix this is GOD. It was very hard in church to talk to other christians who would tell me, "John you need more of Jesus", "John you only need Jesus" John, you get to spend more time with Jesus" John you just need to put Jesus first"......clearly Jesus wasn't enough for them, they got married and had a family. I actually had a pastor's wife tell me, "John, you need a wife, you're married to Jesus"
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you need help.
 
Cameron143

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JohnB said:
I have never been married. The thought of becoming one flesh is extremely important to me.....to never being alone again. I get the impression some Christians and churches want that being alone to continue for eternity.
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The Lord is my Shepherd; I shall not want.

There is nothing wrong with desiring a wife. But this will not guarantee that you never feel alone. A relationship with a spouse will never be satisfying to you or anyone else apart from one first being satisfied in Christ.
 
Jimbone

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JohnB said:
Not as long at Christians keep misquoting scripture.
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Who misquoted scripture? And please give your scriptural defense for #1 for marriage and sex not being the synonymous in the bible, and more than that, #2 where on earth do you get that we will all be having sex with each other in heaven in some kind of holy orgy. You must be thinking of Islam or something.

So make a better case than "I think" to come with before calling everyone else out for misquoting scripture. At least they're using scripture.
 
JohnB

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Cameron143 said:
The Lord is my Shepherd; I shall not want.

There is nothing wrong with desiring a wife. But this will not guarantee that you never feel alone. A relationship with a spouse will never be satisfying to you or anyone else apart from one first being satisfied in Christ.
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Two are better than one,
because they have a good return for their labor:
If either of them falls down,
one can help the other up.
But pity anyone who falls
and has no one to help them up.
Ecclesiastes 4:9-12
 
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Mem said:
Perishable and corruptible is the current status of the body wherein the world to come is imperishable and incorruption. Nothing will rot or go bad. Fruit will remain ever fresh until consumed and "the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father (Matthew 13:43)." So if you were to throw an apple into the sun, the apple would be totally consumed and converted into energy. And so there would be no need for a crapper, and I'm not so sure we would even produce spit anymore, since its purpose is to help 'break down' food. Also, another argument against blood in the resurrected body is the law of uncleanness although it may simple be that it still exists but is made somehow clean. Anyway, why would ovaries still produce considering there is only a limited amount of them each woman is allotted, and function of the loins becomes irrelevant apart from the burdensome filtering of waste.

So, @JohnB, if you'd stop "priming the pump' so much, the reservoir will be allowed to 'settle' back down to a normal level and get a bit of rest from working so feverishly.
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Jesus answered, ā€œYou don't understand because you don't know what the Scriptures say. And you don't know about the power of God Matt 22:29
 
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Jimbone said:
Who misquoted scripture? And please give your scriptural defense for #1 for marriage and sex not being the synonymous in the bible, and more than that, #2 where on earth do you get that we will all be having sex with each other in heaven in some kind of holy orgy. You must be thinking of Islam or something.

So make a better case than "I think" to come with before calling everyone else out for misquoting scripture. At least they're using scripture.
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Genesis 6, The Sons of GOD saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful. These angels had physical desires. Show me in the scriptures where they don't.
 
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John B. doesn't want help. He doesn't want a wife, no matter how much he protests to the contrary. He's in love with his daydreams; if he ever had to face the realities of the real thing he'd probably go into full meltdown. I suspect he hasn't been able to make any real relationships work; that's why he's built up this fantasy world in which he sees himself with his ideal soulmate.

Yes indeed, he needs help; but unfortunately he doesn't want help, not really.
 
Cameron143

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JohnB said:
Two are better than one,
because they have a good return for their labor:
If either of them falls down,
one can help the other up.
But pity anyone who falls
and has no one to help them up.
Ecclesiastes 4:9-12
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This is true. But you refuse to deal with the real, underlying problem in your life...you are not satisfied in God. Because of this, you are looking to find in a wife what only God can give.
I know you will find this difficult to believe, but as you are now, being married would bring you far more grief than blessing.
 
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JohnB said:
The only one who can help, refuses.
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John, i am sincerely concerned for you. you continually accuse God of wrongdoing.

i pray you will be brought to a point where you acknowledge He knows better than you do, and everything He does is good.
 
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