There will be no Rapture!!!

I have to say, what in the world do these two verses have to do with Christians going through the tribulation and the coming of the of the Lord Jesus Christ at the end of the tribulation? These verses are about prophesying of the Lord Jesus Christ coming/incarnating to die for the sins of the world. So who's the one making the "Biggest mistake?"

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

So to clarify, you think that means an additional return of Christ in the middle of the tribulation?

Which means this poster can debunk cv5's eschatology, cv5 doesn't read it, so the thread doesn't go on and on.

And the 'obvious teaching of scripture' here isn't any particular passage, is it? But rather Jewish culture about how they did weddings, and your pre-trib interpretation thereof?

You have always failed to comprehend the correct exegesis of that verse.

Correctly stated:
Jesus comes as a "thief" with a "shout" for His Bride in the JOYFUL HAPPY pre-trib harpazo event.

However the DOTL comes as a "thief in the NIGHT", the night being idiomatic of SOMBER DEVASTATING judgement, and hearkens all the way back to the "darkness" of JUDGEMENT going way back to Genesis 1:2!

KJV Search Results for "darkness" (blueletterbible.org)

Everything. The OT is absolutely crucial to comprehending.......everything. Everything about Jesus Messiah and His redemption of His Church. Among everything else. As in every single thing and all things.

Again, pretribbers try to turn one event into two without any Biblical support.

Just where is there a thief in the night type verse that refers to pre-trib at all? The reference in Matthew 24 is set 'after the tribulation of those days', referred to in the passage as 'great tribulation,' when the 'coming of the Son of Man' takes place

Daniel 9:27 KJV
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

It’s a Hebrew week of years, there
is a 3 1/2 year period before
the last 3 1/2 years.

Paul had said (1Th5:1-3) "THE DAY OF THE LORD so cometh [/arrives] as a thief IN THE NIGHT..."

"the DOTL" is an earthly-located time period of much duration, that is comprised of "judgments" unfolding upon the earth (over some time!) and then "blessings" (over some time!)--ALL that!...

IOW, its ARRIVAL is at the START of the 7-yr Trib, with its "judgments" unfolding (including "the man of sin" and all he is slated to do).


See my Post #300 on the last page, I'd just put:

https://christianchat.com/threads/there-will-be-no-rapture.212356/post-5145470






[Amos 5:18a - "Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? [...]" --This verse is speaking of its first aspects / its arrival / the "judgments" unfolding upon the earth portion, of course]

Bingo. There isn't.

As TDW has stated exhaustively ad infinitum, the term specific term "thief in the night" pertains to the JUDGEMENTS OF THE DAY OF THE LORD. Which happens AFTER the rapture, and only begins when the "man of sin" is revealed, 1st seal.

Absolutely bullseye exegetical perfection and undoubtedly correct.

Of course it is, don't you think I know this? Your the one who quoted two verses implying they relate specifically to the tribulation. Now your trying to cover yourself of this big mistake. There goes your credibility as far as I'm concerned.

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

Sacrifice ceased in the first century.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 KJV
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

His feet don’t seem to touch the ground on this occasion 😇

Daniel 9:25 KJV - ….the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Signing off
💤

And yet, still no sacrifice.

Soon.

When you "get it" you get it. I guess you are not there yet.

The Scriptures are ALL LINKED in one indivisible whole. God willing one of these days you will finally discover this truth.

Doubtful. But that isn't the point. The ending of the sacrifices is what determines the time reference.

How do you interpret Luke 12:36-37,38,40 and context, where v.36 states, "when he will RETURN from the wedding..." THEN "the meal" [G347; same word used in Matt8:11 referring to the earthly MK age]"







[for the readers: "the Bride / Wife [singular]" is not the INVITED "guests [plural]"... though both of these refer to "saved" persons; the "guests" never lift off the earth, but are present there on the earth at His "RETURN" there]

Just to let you know buddy, that verse pertains to the rebuilding of the temple and the city at the time of Ezra and Nehimiah.

Not if they begin again. Which will of course "reset the clock" prophetically. Which is quite inevitable. Since Israel is in the land and all. And have a ultra-orthodox "right wing" government in power. Who will certainly build the "tribulation temple".

Which of course is setting the stage necessarily for the imminent 70th week of Daniel.