Faith alone, faith plus works? Something is missing in this discussion

good night all

Well, that discussion ended quickly.

I make no mistakes and can make .o mistakes sticking solely with the simple truth of God's inspired word. Believe whatever junk you like. Goodbye 👋

LOL

maybe so. But it is still possible

what then?

Adding the word have doers not change anytthing

the word recieve means to grab ahold. To grasp.

this is who God gives the right or power to become his children.

It is solely God

But man still has to say yes.

Me allowing someone to save me does nto mean I have taken part in or saved myself

So once again, you’re stuck trying to put everything in a calvinistic vs arminian view. And yet you have allienated many who believe in number 1 which reject calvinist fatalistic thinking

Yet you twist and distort the truth of Gods word to your own demise..

running from people will not help you

Yeah, I was right before. We've gone as far as we can with this. Have a great evening!

If Apollos' water was literal, then Paul would have to have been planting literal seed. Don't get him mixed up with Old McDonald.

Nice. Insults. You should check into that log in your eye.

You can search among those 43K denominations, and you won't find a single one of them that you perfectly agree with on everything. You're entitled to your God-given uniqueness and freedom of exploration.

I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.
1 Cor 1:10 ESV

That is exactly the point.

Baptism was not mentioned in the context of the gospel.

This thread is derailed.

What happened to faith and works?

I believe the church is far more divided now, than it has ever been in church history.

There seems to be a deeper misunderstanding of what the gospel itself comprises, adding fuel to the fire.

I've been saved just over 50 years. God has spoken to me about 40 times over that time. It is a noiseless yet clear word, usually very concise. Another time the Lord asked me, "What is your righteousness?" I thought about it. My definition is, "The best I can do". Then I remembered what God has to say about my righteousness - filthy rags. That was all for that time.

It's not in the mind, it is deeper than that. It's hard to describe. I know what thoughts are. I know too that when God speaks, it is in my spirit man. Sometimes the Lord simply reminds me of His word. I was wrestling with a sin that I could not overcome. I asked the Lord to help. He said, "Resist the devil and he will flee". This was the answer. I thought that the sin originated with me. I was fighting the wrong enemy. I started to resist the devil every time the temptation came. I had the victory in a few days.

Sometimes God speaks in answer to a question. From time to time, He breaks through my thoughts to talk to me about what He sees I need to know or be reminded about. I'm well aware that Satan can implant thoughts that may seem to be from God. I always check against God's word. I've had to reject some thoughts because I realised they were not from God. We need discernment all the time.

But your neighbour [scenario] was stood right next to you and he did not "grab" Jesus

You must be a better person, smarter, more righteous.

This is why Christians pass by the beggar in the doorway thinking "They shoulda have done what I did when they had the chance, they shoulda "grabbed Christ" they have made their bed and now they must lie in it"

Unbelievers perceive that Christians think themselves better than themselves.

Says the one who will not discuss how he puts people in little cages.

Your new here man.. The conversation has been going on since long before you Got here. You do not know what has been said between this poster and everyone else

As the old saying goes. Judge not lest ye be judged.

it turned into a baptism/calvin/arminian debate as alot of threads tend to do..lol