Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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cv5

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It is a little fool hardy and naive to think one man can take on the deep state in the first years in office.
Remember when Kennedy stated he was going to "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the wind" umm that did not work out too well for him.
Well....there was a Dem house majority. So Trump had a ball and chain on his leg that's for sure.

Indeed, the utterly criminally insane Dem leadership made two attemps at faux impeachment.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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That certainly is a carnal thought.:unsure::)
The question, the whole thread, is biased. Not surprising from RA. It's like "so tell us, when did you stop beating your wife"?! The question is biased toward "we all know he's guilty without a trial, so how could you vote for that"? It was meant to be leading.
 

HeIsHere

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You are confusing Qanon with Q, they are two different things. Q is a psy op from the military, and Qanon is a psy op from the CIA to discredit Q
Presidents should not be playing mind games with the electorate/citizens whether Q or QAnon to garner their favor.
 

brighthouse98

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Truth cannot lie, and we will see in the end if Trump is truthful or he lied, and what the people hate the most!!! Is being lied to!! So far, the Democrats lead in this category. And Biden numbers are going down. He lied about bringing all of us together, he lied about only having 6 grandchildren, He said, and this really angered me!!

That he cares more about our allies then he does about America!! He is going to find out that MAGA is what our people really want! Let Europe support the people of Ukraine for a change we have problems of our own! Like inflation, Crime and the border!!
 

PennEd

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Tell me when he was in office what policy of his did you disagree with?
To my dying days I will never understand how a Christian can vote for democrats, since at least the 1970s, knowing what policies they have, and try and make law.

For the umpteenth time, we KNOW many republicans, on a personal level, are repugnant.
But since we have entered the age of a cult of personality, people seem incapable of separating the party's policy, with a person they like or dislike on a personal level.

I suspect many think they are like SOME of the old Democrats, like JFK, who were comparably decent, and genuinely had the best interests of the country at heart.

Or their parents were one. Or they were or are in a union. (yes I know a few union guys that abhor democrats).

But the difference is so severely stark now, they are without excuse.
 

ZNP

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Presidents should not be playing mind games with the electorate/citizens whether Q or QAnon to garner their favor.
You are funny! I suppose Presidents shouldn't be doing a lot of things, but then they wouldn't be president. This is like saying mud wrestlers shouldn't get muddy.

However, a president swears an oath to defend the constitution and if that requires the use of mind games so be it.
 

shittim

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Well....there was a Dem house majority. So Trump had a ball and chain on his leg that's for sure.

Indeed, the utterly criminally insane Dem leadership made two attemps at faux impeachment.
(So much for the power of my prayers for him.):unsure::(:confused:
 

brighthouse98

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Remember brother Shittim this scripture (Gen 50:20!!!) " As for you, you meant evil against me, but God made it good in order to bring about this present result, to preserve many people alive! Some prayers look as if they were not heard or denied but, in the end, you not only were well heard but also had an opportunity to use your faith, which in the end will be well rewarded!!
 

HeIsHere

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To my dying days I will never understand how a Christian can vote for democrats, since at least the 1970s, knowing what policies they have, and try and make law.

For the umpteenth time, we KNOW many republicans, on a personal level, are repugnant.
But since we have entered the age of a cult of personality, people seem incapable of separating the party's policy, with a person they like or dislike on a personal level.

I suspect many think they are like SOME of the old Democrats, like JFK, who were comparably decent, and genuinely had the best interests of the country at heart.

Or their parents were one. Or they were or are in a union. (yes I know a few union guys that abhor democrats).

But the difference is so severely stark now, they are without excuse.

Agree, I do not get it either.

Perhaps some Christians have been a bit too exuberant with their Trump support and other Christians have reacted against that,

but for goodness sake there is no comparison between Trump's economic and foreign policy and the mess Biden has created.

What really annoys me is when they state they do not vote or do not support the Dems either.
This fence sitting is not helping the country at all.

The Republican party has a grass roots, populist, conservative movement growing within its ranks this needs to be supported by Christians
 

HeIsHere

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repealing the ban on shooting hibernating bears.
What a tragic response from someone who lives in what was one of the freest countries in the world, one where people took up arms to defend its freedom.
 

HeIsHere

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You are funny! I suppose Presidents shouldn't be doing a lot of things, but then they wouldn't be president. This is like saying mud wrestlers shouldn't get muddy.

However, a president swears an oath to defend the constitution and if that requires the use of mind games so be it.
Yeah, not sure about Q being distinct from QAnon, but he was weak on the issue.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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What a tragic response from someone who lives in what was one of the freest countries in the world, one where people took up arms to defend its freedom.
They want the question answered in one direction, it doesn't work both ways.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Agree, I do not get it either.

Perhaps some Christians have been a bit too exuberant with their Trump support and other Christians have reacted against that,

but for goodness sake there is no comparison between Trump's economic and foreign policy and the mess Biden has created.

What really annoys me is when they state they do not vote or do not support the Dems either.
This fence sitting is not helping the country at all.

The Republican party has a grass roots, populist, conservative movement growing within its ranks this needs to be supported by Christians
Standing O over here, would give 2x winners if I could. You nailed it.
 

HeIsHere

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They want the question answered in one direction, it doesn't work both ways.

Politics will never be black and white, we have to support as Christians what we know is in the best interest of the country overall.

It really is not that hard to understand.
 

Cameron143

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repealing the ban on shooting hibernating bears.
Was there a reason given as to why? Did hunters just want an easy kill or was the protection given to the bears destroying the ecological balances in ecosystems? Would killing the bears during hibernation be more humane? Would it be safer?
I assume that most are against the wanton killing of any animal. And if that was the purpose, I join you in your dissent. But if there is purpose to the decision, you should in good conscience have shared that too.
 

ZNP

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What really annoys me is when they state they do not vote or do not support the Dems either. This fence sitting is not helping the country at all.
Matthew 12:30 “Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.

It is a deceit used by those who are wimpy. They know they can't stand with the Democrats and still be standing with Jesus, so they say they aren't. But look at them, they are clearly not with the Lord, they are clearly not gathering, and net result is to scatter. Divide and conquer, just give believers one more reason why they should be divided and not united.