Saved by faith alone?

The Greek states "so that your sins may be forgiven" not "because your sins are forgiven".

This is why you cannot find a single Bible version that states "because of" regardless of what language the Bible is printed in.

You are fighting the Greek and 2000 years of translations.

So yes. your arrogance is showing.

I just used your own reasoning my friend.. don't ask us if we follow Jesus then when confronted talk as if you did not say it..

I recieved remission of sin, by the blood of Christ,. because i was baptized BY GOD into his death

Not because I was immersed in water by another sinner.

I stand by my words. We are to follow the example of Jesus and be baptized in water (by another sinner)

All your words about being sinless like Jesus, fasting for 40 days and raising the dead is pointless jabber

actually I showed you oneY

as usual you ignored it
and twide to twist it. and when I posted it in the thread so you could see for yourself. you ignored it and never mentioned it

So yes. Your pride is showing

By who?

yes, a calvinist will say this.. Nut not all faith based christians do..

You showed me one???

You showed me a version of the Bible that states that baptism is "because of" the remission of sins???

Please tell me the Post#. I am eager to see it.

Don't misrepresent Calvinists. God's sovereignty and my responsibility are not in conflict.

God must baptise me into his death for me to be saved, No man can baptise me into christ. only God can

God does the spiritual part of the baptism, when man does the physical part of baptizing in the name of Jesus. That's what it means to be baptized in the name of Jesus.... you are being baptized into his death, burial, and resurrection....

Romans 6

3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too may walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have become [b]united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be [c]in the likeness of His resurrection,

thats two baptisms not one

not only this, the word baptizo would not allow for this (in the original greek)

I was baptized into Christ, and into his death.

I was not baptized into water in Christ, and baptized in water into his death. that makes no sense gramatically or spiritually

I disagree..... it's still one baptism... the water baptism into the name of Jesus, as Jesus commanded his apostles, and at the same time the spiritual baptism into Jesus death burial and resurrection is happening.

So, baptism into Jesus is the one baptism?

I guess being baptized with the Holy Spirit wouldn't make it 2 baptisms... or with fire (still haven't seen that one) which would make it 3 baptisms...

Jesus told us to be baptized in water ..... so that would make, what, 4 baptisms by your way of thinking?

There is no faith without repentance.

Just because people claim they have faith does not mean they do.

Paul and James were both precise in this truth.

For someone to say they have faith but they never repented is an oxymoron and for someone to say they truly repented but they don't have faith is also an oxymoron. Repentance and faith are two sides to the same coin of receiving Christ.

Acts 20:21 - testifying both to Jews and to Greeks of repentance toward God and of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.

The Church of Christ gospel plan is to hear, believe, repent, confess, and be (water) baptized for the forgiveness of sins. Here it is reasoned that if one will simply accomplish these “5 steps,” the believer will thereby save himself.
Notice that this plan places faith before repentance.

To those in the Churches of Christ, this is common sense because it is believed that ‘one must believe before he can repent.’ This view arises from their understanding of both “faith” and “repentance.”

“Faith” in the Churches of Christ is understood as ‘intellectual assent” or accepting the facts of the Christian faith. To them it is believing God’s historical testimony about Himself, Jesus Christ, and that of the rest of the Bible.

Repentance on the other hand is understood as moral self-reformation.

In regard to faith, those in the Churches of Christ often fail to understand that there is a deeper, more substantive aspect of faith which is believing upon the Lord Jesus Christ for eternal life, and most cannot distinguish between mere intellectual belief or assent from a personal faith that is trusting or resting on Jesus Christ alone for salvation.

Here, they will cite that “even the devils believe” (from James 2:19) in their sermons and will contend that even the "faith of devils" is the same as any other faith except that the faith of devils lacks any moral or religious good works.

*This explains why people in the Church of Christ have so much faith in water baptism and other works for salvation.*

Thus, their understanding gives rise to their reversal of the scriptural order of repentance and faith, and yet as we will find, there is not a single scripture in the New Testament to support their view.

To the contrary, when we consider this in light of the Scriptures, we find repentance actually preceding Faith:

“…you did not repent and believe him.” Matt. 21:32

“Repent, and believe in the gospel.” Mark 1:15

“…repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.” Acts 20:21

“…repent and turn to God.” Acts 26:20

“…not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God.” Heb. 6:1

These verses should make it clear that repentance actually precedes faith.

Faith and Repentance (cofcdilemma.org)

great chart

the only problem I have is the baptism here is the baptism of God, or the baptism of the holy spirit

Not some baptism in water

"Baptized into Christ" does not mean water baptized into the body of Christ, as water-salvationists teach. That is only accomplished through Spirit baptism. (1 Corinthians 12:13) Now in what "sense" would a believer be "water baptized into Christ?" In the same "sense" that the Israelites were "baptized into Moses.." (1 Corinthians 10:2) The Israelites were not literally water baptized into the body of Moses and there is little dispute that being "baptized into Moses" signified the open allegiance and public identification of the Israelites with Moses as their leader. Moses was formally recognized as the leader of the covenant people. Water baptism signifies our allegiance and public identification with Christ as our Savior, so it would only be in that sense.