Saved by faith alone?

What in the verbiage of the verse demands "alone"?

Where is the definitive qualifier in this verse?

Why is "alone" not in the verbiage?

Your forcing "alone" into the verse is in conflict with basic hermeneutics. (Inference without cause)

This is the deck of card that faith alone regeneration theology is based on.

Can you not produce at least one verse that states "alone" since it is the core tenet of your theology?
This is what you wrote:

"Yes.. When salvation is concerned we are saved by what Jesus did for us.. Not for what we may or may not do.. "

"Regardless of what we do or may not do" is a definitive phrase, it is all encompassing. This is basic grammar. What you are implying is that Jesus will save us....period. You made no attempt to qualify your assertion

Yes.. When salvation is concerned we are saved by what Jesus did for us.. Not for what we may or may not do..

Are we judged on what we do? Yes.. Some will be called greater in the kingdom of God and some will be called least in the Kingdom.. But as far as being saved is concerned our works do not factor into it..

"Yes people must have faith in what Jesus did for us" "people must"....now you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Which one is it? Must we do something or does it not matter?

Oh and according to the Bible Faith is not a Work.. Look it up some time.. I looked it up.

John 6:28–29 — The New International Version (NIV)
28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

Oh and according to the Bible baptism is not a work. Look it up some time..

Here is another wonderful example of our Father’s ALL-SUFFICIENT GRACE in the Millennium (This is prophecy; it hasn’t happened yet.)

But the Holy Spirit also witnesses to us; for after He had said before, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the LORD: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them," then He adds, "Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more."

- Hebrews 10:15-17

Faith must have the corresponding action of obedience to make it complete as well as alive (activated) in order for faith to produce the intended divine result.

Your above statement is quote correct but many here will label it as heresy, lawlessness or works-salvation.

Lamar do you just throw out all of Eph. 2:8?
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast."

How clear can Scripture be? It literally tells you HOW to be saved and how NOT to be saved. You are 100% saying the Bible is wrong, that you do have to work your way there and that works are need in conjunction with the cross.

TO ALL NEW BELIEVERS OR ANYONE ELSE READING THIS THREAD. Please don't go along with Lamar's doctrine. It leads to the pits of hell. If you die and tell God right to His face that you are here because of what YOU did....Dear Lord...it won't end well for you.
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This is the text:

2 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh[a] and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, were we by nature deserving of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

It is important to understand that Paul is writing this to the Church, the body of God's people. It is not written to the lost. This is not teaching "HOW" to be saved. It is written in the past tense to express to believers of the mercy of God. You are taking this out of context.

This was written to people who already believed, repented, been baptized for the remission of sins, confessed Jesus as Lord etc.

If you want a clear understanding of HOW to be saved look into the Book of Acts.

So you are in error, this does not "literally tells you HOW to be saved".

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Perhaps the phrase is quoted but it is difficult to tell whether it was part of a previous post because of the way you copy material, but it was in your post that I addressed.
As far as grace coming after faith, Ephesians 2:8 is plain...For by grace are we saved through faith...Grace clearly precedes faith and is it's cause. If not for God's grace there is no faith and no salvation.
A good example is Noah. He found grace in the sight of the Lord. As a result, God spoke to him...faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Noah believed what God said...faith...and built the ark...a work.
Grace leads to faith which produces works.

"Perhaps the phrase is quoted"???

Either I did or did not write it.

Since you can not find the post, it may be you who is in error. Please do not accuse someone of making such a statement and then hide behind such a lame excuse. You are blaming me for you not finding the post?!

Abraham was saved before he did one work.

God is not so weak he needs to see a work to KNOW our faith is real. God knows our hearts.

We call it a works based salvation because that is what it is.

These discussions remind me of the passdown meetings at the start of each production shift...
the techs from the outgoing shift, when discussing a particular project would begin with "all you
gotta do ...... " even when there were 3 days of work left on it.... but "all you gotta do.... " was the lead-in.

I see that so much with folks here that want to know what the minimum is for salvation.... "all you gotta
do is have faith".... "all you gotta do is believe"..... "all you gotta do is pray the 'sinner's prayer' " .....

Why do we not simply, willingly and lovingly do ALL that is taught in scripture?
Why do people look for the LEAST amount of "stuff" to do?

Scripture says we need to hear the good news... and we need to believe it, and we need to have faith
enough to accept Jesus' free gift to us, and we need to be baptized, as an appeal for a clear conscience
and the forgiveness of sins, and we need to do our dead-level best to obey Jesus' instructions, and we
need to spread the gospel.... we also need to repent when we sin....

It's all part of accepting this free gift of salvation..... why do you want to minimize any of it?

Abraham was saved before he did one work. Was this promise made to you? Was not the promise of Acts 2:38 meant for all of us.

38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

God is not so weak he needs to see a work to KNOW our faith is real. God knows our hearts. Tell that to Isaac!

11 But the angel of the Lord called to him from heaven and said, “Abraham, Abraham!” And he said, “Here I am.” 12 He said, “Do not lay your hand on the boy or do anything to him, for now I know that you fear God, seeing you have not withheld your son, your only son, from me.” 13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, behind him was a ram, caught in a thicket by his horns. And Abraham went and took the ram and offered it up as a burnt offering instead of his son. 14 So Abraham called the name of that place, “The Lord will provide”; as it is said to this day, “On the mount of the Lord it shall be provided.” 15 And the angel of the Lord called to Abraham a second time from heaven 16 and said, “By myself I have sworn, declares the Lord, because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son

We call it a works based salvation because that is what it is. And the Bible calls it "for the remission of sins".

These discussions remind me of the passdown meetings at the start of each production shift... the techs from the outgoing shift, when discussing a particular project would begin with "all you gotta do ...... " even when there were 3 days of work left on it.... but "all you gotta do.... " was the lead-in.

I see that so much with folks here that want to know what the minimum is for salvation.... "all you gotta do is have faith".... "all you gotta do is believe"..... "all you gotta do is pray the 'sinner's prayer' " .....

Why do we not simply, willingly and lovingly do ALL that is taught in scripture? Why do people look for the LEAST amount of "stuff" to do?
Scripture says we need to hear the good news... and we need to believe it, and we need to have faith enough to accept Jesus' free gift to us, and we need to be baptized, as an appeal for a clear conscience and the forgiveness of sins, and we need to do our dead-level best to obey Jesus' instructions, and we need to spread the gospel.... we also need to repent when we sin....

It's all part of accepting this free gift of salvation..... why do you want to minimize any of it?

so how much or many "good works" does one have to do before securing his own salvation, lamar? How do you know you've done enough?

Is this not true now?

not yet, @Cameron143
And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins."

- Romans 11:23-27

it's amazing to me that the you need to be baptized to go to Heaven crowd honestly thinks if a man truly accepted Christ as His savior, repented of his sins and is now lined up to get baptized but dies of a heart attack before he gets dunked is going to hell forever. To stay intellectually honest they have to take this position. Utter nonsense.

I also think that it can be dangerous to cavalierly ask "Why do we not simply, willingly and lovingly do ALL that is taught in scripture?

So how much "faith" does one have to have before securing his own salvation, Radius? How do you know you've believed enough?

I don't see that as cavalier at all... it's a pretty simple thing...
Of course I don't expect a new believer to know everything.... they are babies... what do babies know?
But, in order to be born, a baby has to do several things.... they have to "know" that it's time, they have to go through the birthing process, and they have to breathe when they arrive. The rest of "doing life" is learned as they grow and mature.
But if you do not instruct a new born Christian in what is necessary to be born, they might not survive the process....
If you tell a baby, all you have to do is survive the birthing process, you've likely risked their life. Sometimes they have to have their bottom slapped to get them to start breathing....
Newborn babies in Christ need to be told what they need to do.... putting your hand on the TV and saying "yes, I believe" is not all there is to it..... and telling people that is doing them a grave disservice. There is more to it than that, and scripture teaches us that, clearly.