Christ kept the Law of Moses, so....

Simple: attempting to be right with God means either trusting in Christ or following the law perfectly and completely. Since the latter is impossible, the only rational choice is trusting in Christ. That is consistent with the law being both "fulfilled" and "abolished".

So in your view the 2 terms are synonymous?

No, definitely not! Christ fulfilled the law. He did not need to abolish it because it was fulfilled. However, in terms of Christian practice, the effect is the same: we are not under the law.

The analogy of the mortgage is relevant here: when your house mortgage is fully paid (fulfilled), you don't keep making payments on it. The same is true if your mortgage were forgiven (abolished); you would not continue to make payments.

The law of Moses was abolished at the cross.


In the New Covenant, we are under the law of Christ, which is more strict and carry’s a more severe penalty than the law of Moses.


Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
Hebrews 10:28-29



Always remember that grace is something and someone.

Truth is something and someone.

Wisdom is something and someone…







JLB

The Blue Letter Bible site has the original Hebrew and Greek from the various manuscripts. It uses Strongs and Lexicons and so much more. Almost everything is clickable to zoom in further. When you click on a Hebrew word number it brings up many things about the word as well as all the verses it occurs in. They are always updating it with new and improved information as it becomes available.

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even the New Testament in Revelations 9:11 tells us that Psalm 119:176 abad/avad H6 is translated wrong.

9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

adaddon means destruction which comes from H11 which is the intensive form of H6 abad/avad. That word is translated destroy and perish all through the OT. In Psalm 119:176 abad means destroyed and perished as that was His condition in that verse. He was the slain Lamb and asking to be raised through the stanza and the Psalm.

Hey that is interesting. Psalm 119 and Revelations 9:11. Lots of 911s. Could it be a sign? Amazing that the verse in the New Testament is correcting a mistranslation in Psalm 119.

any Bereans can use the Blue Letter Bible or their favorite Bible study site to confirm or disprove what has been presented. So far no one has presented any evidence from the original languages to disprove that Psalm 119 is indeed the Son's prayer for life and to be raised because of His obedience to the Law in giving His Life to save us as the Law required of Him. The Law also promised Him that He would Live and He trusted that promise as He says through Psalm 119 as He asked to live according to the promise of life to Him.

to love one another? maybe? just trying to do that should be enough to keep us occupied, yet can we?

my understanding is that we should keep the law because Matt 5:17 - otherwise we can kind of do what we want - but is it all the old laws or just some is troubling

If you don't mind, I would like to test your hermeneutic. Under Christs law, written on our hearts, is it permissible for a man to dress as a woman?

I'm with you. Mat 5:17-20 indicates that the Law is NOT abolished, certainly not until ALL is fulfilled. The term "law" that Christ is using in v18 is a contracted form of the noun phrase "the law and the prophets" alluded to in v17. In other words "the law" often refer to the books of the Torah but sometimes is used colloquially to refer to all of the Tanakh. Christ's subject is clearly the Tanakh because of His opening statement in v17. There are literally thousands of commandments and prophecies (taken together) that are yet to be fulfilled. Not fulfilled = not abolished.

Which parts are relevant to the Christian? First, rightly divide. The codified Law found in the Torah is divided for you by the Holy Spirit. The testimony (ten commandments) - Exodus 20; The Judgements (God's judgements) - Exodus 21-23; The Ordinances (God's instructions for temple worship) Exodus 26-31; Subordinate Judgements (Some from God, some from Moses) throughout the rest of the Torah.

In Ephesians 2:15 Paul tells you which part no longer pertains to you - Ordinances. Why? Because He literally fulfilled/satisfied the ordinances by becoming our new High Priest and by sacrificing Himself. An exercise which did not need to be repeated because of it's perfectness. Now, if you believe that God was manifest in the flesh to become the Lamb which takes away the sin of the world, righteousness is imputed to by Grace through faith. If you deny this then you remain in your sins since there is no alternative.

The ordinances persist even to this day to describe in more detail what Christ has done for you, especially on that cross. But this is meat for the maturing believer.

As to the other parts of the law they stand with all the authority they have ever had till heaven and earth pass by which time they will have been fulfilled. This is why the writers of the NT repeatedly reference these laws in teaching believers The Way.

Hope this helps.

No, definitely not! Christ fulfilled the law. He did not need to abolish it because it was fulfilled.