Is personal prophecy scriptural?
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Good discussion. 
I think that in these latter days, we need to be very careful of “supposed“ prophets. A Christian should be able to spot a false prophet by comparing what they say to what the Bible says. If what they say does not align with what God has already given us in His Word, we should simply throw it out because 2 Timothy 3:16-17 tells us that “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.“
Not only that; Matthew 24:24 warns us not to be deceived “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
I think that in these latter days, we need to be very careful of “supposed“ prophets. A Christian should be able to spot a false prophet by comparing what they say to what the Bible says. If what they say does not align with what God has already given us in His Word, we should simply throw it out because 2 Timothy 3:16-17 tells us that “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.“
Not only that; Matthew 24:24 warns us not to be deceived “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
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When the quotation you gave below was written, the New Testament did not exist.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:2 Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Are you saying that we model our Chritsian walk on the Old Testament?
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:2 Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Are you saying that we model our Chritsian walk on the Old Testament?
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The canon was not closed in Paul's era.
1 Corinthians 14:5
Now I wish that you all spoke in tongues, but rather that you would prophesy; and greater is the one who prophesies than the one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edification.
1 Corinthians 14:39
Therefore, my brothers and sisters, earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues.
You cannot in one breath talk about canon and in another breath forbid speaking in tongues.
Don't be caught suppressing the gifts of the Holy Spirit, when you have been told not to do that.
1 Corinthians 14:5
Now I wish that you all spoke in tongues, but rather that you would prophesy; and greater is the one who prophesies than the one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edification.
1 Corinthians 14:39
Therefore, my brothers and sisters, earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues.
You cannot in one breath talk about canon and in another breath forbid speaking in tongues.
Don't be caught suppressing the gifts of the Holy Spirit, when you have been told not to do that.
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The New Testament letter's were not recognized as canon, until way after 65 AD. There were dozens of letters circulating across the churches in the first and second century. Even Paul had problems with people writing letters with his name on them.
Do some research on the history of the New Testament.
Do some research on the history of the New Testament.
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Cheese Whiz. I did not know that a yes or no answer could be so passionate and zealous.
I did not find you loving. I find you overdone and cooked beyond the time needed.
You have made assumptions that are not true; created a bloated response to a simple question because you wish to appear a certain way and assumed that I disagree with scripture when I actually disagree with you and find you are simply jumping to contusions
conclusions.
One day perhaps you will come to understand why everyone in this day and age should proceed with caution when it comes to spiritual manifestations.
I'm not asking any questions here so don't feel obligated to become passionate and zealous. It doesn't wash with me anyway
I did not find you loving. I find you overdone and cooked beyond the time needed.
You have made assumptions that are not true; created a bloated response to a simple question because you wish to appear a certain way and assumed that I disagree with scripture when I actually disagree with you and find you are simply jumping to contusions
conclusions.
One day perhaps you will come to understand why everyone in this day and age should proceed with caution when it comes to spiritual manifestations.
I'm not asking any questions here so don't feel obligated to become passionate and zealous. It doesn't wash with me anyway
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I have never in my many travels, come across a church 'constructed' by the Holy Spirit. I agree regarding tradition but we are living in an age when the gifts are badly abused and it often seems discernment/discretion, is ignored. The mistaken idea seems to be 'if it happens in a church/body of believers, it must be God.
A very large portion of the New Testament was written to counter error and sin. As Solomon said, there is nothing new under the sun.
People seem to think there is a difference between doctrine and the Holy Spirit. Who do they think is influencing the books in the Bible?
And teaching and leading believers into the truth we find therein.
A very large portion of the New Testament was written to counter error and sin. As Solomon said, there is nothing new under the sun.
People seem to think there is a difference between doctrine and the Holy Spirit. Who do they think is influencing the books in the Bible?
And teaching and leading believers into the truth we find therein.
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Cheese Whiz. I did not know that a yes or no answer could be so passionate and zealous.
I did not find you loving. I find you overdone and cooked beyond the time needed.
You have made assumptions that are not true; created a bloated response to a simple question because you wish to appear a certain way and assumed that I disagree with scripture when I actually disagree with you and find you are simply jumping to contusions
conclusions.
One day perhaps you will come to understand why everyone in this day and age should proceed with caution when it comes to spiritual manifestations.
I'm not asking any questions here so don't feel obligated to become passionate and zealous. It doesn't wash with me anyway
I did not find you loving. I find you overdone and cooked beyond the time needed.
You have made assumptions that are not true; created a bloated response to a simple question because you wish to appear a certain way and assumed that I disagree with scripture when I actually disagree with you and find you are simply jumping to contusions
conclusions.
One day perhaps you will come to understand why everyone in this day and age should proceed with caution when it comes to spiritual manifestations.
I'm not asking any questions here so don't feel obligated to become passionate and zealous. It doesn't wash with me anyway
“Wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses.”
Proverbs 27:6 NIV
and
“Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another.”
Proverbs 27:17 ESV
Iron sharpening iron isn’t a warm and fuzzy metaphor. If you aren’t familiar with blacksmith work ,There is a grinding, heat, pressure, often sparks fly.
We also know that we aught to
“Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love.”
1 Corinthians 16:13-14 ESV
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And talk about the universal church as did he
Just a simple question. mwhaaaaaaa
Just a simple question. mwhaaaaaaa
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Oh yeah? Really?
Do tell where we learn that Paul anticipated the complete Bible? It sure ain't in II Timothy
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [a]instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
There was no NT at the time. There were letters in circulation. The lengths some go to try and prove the Holy Spirit and the gifts God gives through Him, are now dead
Believers need to believe the Bible.
I mean you actually reacted negatively to a post I made regarding the fact that we do not have our own righteousness; that God views us as righteous positionally through His Son. The concept of positional righteousness just does not seem to appeal to the people who think they have somehow become worthy of salvation.
I boggles the mind
Do tell where we learn that Paul anticipated the complete Bible? It sure ain't in II Timothy
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [a]instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
There was no NT at the time. There were letters in circulation. The lengths some go to try and prove the Holy Spirit and the gifts God gives through Him, are now dead
Believers need to believe the Bible.
I mean you actually reacted negatively to a post I made regarding the fact that we do not have our own righteousness; that God views us as righteous positionally through His Son. The concept of positional righteousness just does not seem to appeal to the people who think they have somehow become worthy of salvation.
I boggles the mind
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On Monday I actually bumped into some very nice Mennonite ladies and had a short but pleasant conversation with them. It probably helped I had an I ❤️Jesus fish on the bumper Granted I’m Far removed from their Church body but still we got along. Lended them a helpful hand in directing them to a location they were looking for. All smiles, pleasantry’s . No condemnation. More just plain Jesus People interacting with each other in daily life.
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Good discussion.
I think that in these latter days, we need to be very careful of “supposed“ prophets. A Christian should be able to spot a false prophet by comparing what they say to what the Bible says. If what they say does not align with what God has already given us in His Word, we should simply throw it out because 2 Timothy 3:16-17 tells us that “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.“
Not only that; Matthew 24:24 warns us not to be deceived “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
I think that in these latter days, we need to be very careful of “supposed“ prophets. A Christian should be able to spot a false prophet by comparing what they say to what the Bible says. If what they say does not align with what God has already given us in His Word, we should simply throw it out because 2 Timothy 3:16-17 tells us that “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.“
Not only that; Matthew 24:24 warns us not to be deceived “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
There would be no issue if the scriptures declared: "No more prophesies after John dies. Ever." But it doesn't. And believers would not have to be wary of "false prophets" if there were no "true prophets". The instruction would simply be "Don't accept any prophesies". Couple those things with examples of personal prophesies recorded in the New Testament both before and after Jesus' death, the only conclusion for the question "Is personal prophesy scriptural?" is "Yes". But we must also conclude that there are those who say they speak for God but, in truth, do not. They are the "false prophets" we are warned about.
One glaring omission from the church, today, is proper administration and leadership who will address sin in the church, including when someone falsely claims to speak for God. But that's another topic.
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