water baptism in Jesus' Name.

Nope.

not in this case

Baptized (immersed or placed into Christ

Baptized is the verb, CHrist is the object with which the subject is baptized

all we have to do is look at the rules of language and not read into it anything else than what it says

lol.. Your trying so hard to make yourself believe something

Good luck my friend.

Sorry, but you are way out in left field.

Concerning any doctrine, we must search the whole of scripture and then make our conclusions.

It's right there in the scriptures...I don't have to make myself believe it...it isn't even "wishful thinking". I believe it because scripture teaches it.

Also, I'm not even aware of what the significance is, to you, of the argument.

I just corrected you according to the reality of scripture.

I pray that you convict @heartwashed for putting an "x" #779 post from @Everlasting-Grace Lord, in Jesus' Name.

Thats the problem you are not doign this

You interpret the word to fit your belief system. you do not conform you belief system to the world

Baptized into christ is the act of God baptizing or placing us into Christ.. It has nothing to do with water baptism.

Until you understand this basic fact. We can not help you

You have to add words which are not there. and see words which are not there in order to believe as you do

I just interpret the word for what it says.,.

I hope the lord opens his eyes to what he is doing..

I reckon he only gave a redx because I gave your post a like because he was upset I gave him the X in a previous post.

No doubt it will be denied.

he is like so many before him..

The Lord does not open the eyes of those who are willfully blind. In fact he reinforces their blindness, so that seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear. IT IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS THING FOR ANYONE TO PERSIST IN HIS OR HER ERRORS.

Not sure I agree or get what you saying.

Does not 1 Co 3:5-16 possibly apply?

I don't need your help, I am sufficiently saved.

You're right that I don't conform my belief system to the world. I conform it to the word.

And again, we receive the Spirit (and are therefore placed into Christ) as the result of being baptized in His name, in Acts 2:38-39.

You take away a word "for" and add words "because of" in Acts 2:38, in order to make that scripture fit into your theology.

Amen, I receive it.

I am most certainly willing to "have my eyes opened" to "the truth" if anyone can show scripture that refutes my doctrine. Up till now that has not been done.

But persisting in the truth, by definition, is to not persist in error.

So, if you can show me scripturally that what I believe is not the truth, I am all ears and will change my point of view.

But all that anyone has come up with is to say that baptism is a work. I do not believe that; and there is no scripture that declares that.

The subject here was 1 Corinthians 12:21 here, was it not?

I did not add any words to that scripture...

I merely used it as a proof text for the concept that "you" is plural.

And it verily does prove it.

I'm uncertain as to what that means to you; and why you want to insist to the contrary.

Again, there are a lot of naysayers to the truth here (in this thread, too).

1Co 2:14, But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

1Co 16:9, For a great door and effectual is opened unto me, and there are many adversaries.

"You don't understand what a picture is?"
Yes, I do know the meaning of a symbol.

"A symbol is not the reality, but is a picture of the reality"
Agreed.

"The remission of sins is signified, but not procured in the waters of baptism."
Peter did not command them to be baptized so that they would receive a symbol of their remission of sins but were commanded to be baptized so that their sins would be forgiven. This is a straight forward understanding of Acts 2:38.

To label baptism for the remission of sins a symbol is a sign of an obsession with faith alone regeneration theology. There is no need to force such an understanding into a verse that is so clearly written.

"A man and a woman become united through their wedding vows and the ring symbolizes this. Just as we become united with Christ through faith and water baptism symbolizes this. Strictly speaking, the husband is united to his wife because of the marriage vows rather than the ring. Yet since the latter is the sign of their union, it is natural to speak of the ring to mean the reality it represents. "With this ring, I thee wed," although the ring is not the actual cause of the change in the marital status, just like water baptism is not the actual cause of our salvation status."

Baptism is the marriage vow (pledge) not the ring. Without the vow (pledge) the union does not exist. Again, you are forcing baptism for the remission of sins into something it is not. (1st Peter 3:21)

"Baptism would have no meaning without Christ’s death, burial and resurrection, but Christ’s death, burial and resurrection would still have meaning, even if there were no baptism. In other words, Christ’s death, burial and resurrection is the substance and baptism is the sign/symbol/picture. Without the substance there would be no sign/symbol/picture"

Agreed but this is true of most things.
Example, faith, repentance, confession etc. have no meaning without the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Again, without the pledge the works of Jesus Christ has no affect on the believer.

Baptism for the remission of sins is no more symbolic than was the covering of the the door posts with blood for the Hebrews in Egypt.

"just like water baptism is not the actual cause of our salvation status."

Agreed.
Baptism for the remission of sins is not the cause but the moment in time of salvation.