Do you think transgenders go to heaven?

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PennEd

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We are not mistakes. God makes us how he needs us to be. That includes disabled people, people with mental disabilities and why not transgender people as well.
We agree that transgenderism is at best mental illness, but also demonic assault.

We are all “mistakes” in the sense that we are all born sinners.
The difference here is you are looking to justify your sin, instead of confessing and repenting of your sin.
 
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We agree that transgenderism is at best mental illness, but also demonic assault.

We are all “mistakes” in the sense that we are all born sinners.
The difference here is you are looking to justify your sin, instead of confessing and repenting of your sin.
I confess to God and pray every night!! Didnt you read my posts completely?

You say that we are not mistakes yet others say God doesnt make mistakes....Im confused!

Myself I think we are not mistakes, God makes us precisely how He wants us to be.

But I pray every night for my soul to be cleaned. Perhaps, Im not saying I will but perhaps, some of the Christians in this page would be surprised to find themselves in Hell some day while I am in Heaven, because there are many sins that are worse than being transgender. I don't know about that. But I know that I pray every night.

I can also see anger in some of these messages. Anger is a sin too. We, as in the church as a whole because I used to attend church but Im now far from one to attend, cannot act towards our newcomers, towards people who are wondering if they will be saved, like me, or towards fellow Christians, with anger. Because God does not like it when we do. We need to talk with love, with compassion and understanding.

And maybe yeah maybe I am trying to justify this. So? There is medical research going into this. Left propaganda, right propaganda> I dont know Im just a regular person like you so we can't exactly tell whether its propaganda or not. I am not involved in the media, the government, corporate, I dont know what they are trying to do or what is in their mind.

What I do know is that we suffer, we don't want to be this. Nobody in their right mind would want to be shamed, hated, called names, sometimes even murdered (in the Middle East and Africa). But we are this.

I think God , who knows how everyone feels, understands this.
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He did tell me in my vision as a kid that He was gonna be with me forever. He is my friend, i hope He understands me then.

I need your prayers and your love, not your anger and your hate.
 

ResidentAlien

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No you are wrong Im not a troll and you are judging me, You think transgenderism is a sin but you are sinning as well!

I came here with honest doubts and questions. I came here because I have doubts. I want to be loved, and I want to go to Heaven.

Yet you call me a troll. No wonder some people get turned away from Christianity. People like you who judge others right away turn them away.

Next time, instead of being such judgmental, you should instead be calm and react with love and compassion, the way Jesus would. He did so when the prostitute came to Him and when the thief asked him for forgiveness in the cross.

Also as I said maybe the studies are right maybe they are wrong. But the fact there are studies being carried out about this means that there is a possibility that we have the wrong brain in the right body or the wrong body with the right brain.

I dont need your acceptance. The only acceptance I need is from God.
Well, it's clear you've had a good deal of indoctrination from people who would be perfectly happy to see you stay in your confused state. And it's very clear you're confused about your gender. God made you male; that's His plan and His will for your life. When you make excuses and try to find scientific studies to rationalize your rebellion against God that's sin, whether you believe it or not.

Yes, we're all sinful. But I don't go around flaunting my sin and looking for reasons to justify it. That's what you're doing.
 
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Well, it's clear you've had a good deal of indoctrination from people who would be perfectly happy to see you stay in your confused state. And it's very clear you're confused about your gender. God made you male; that's His plan and His will for your life. When you make excuses and try to find scientific studies to rationalize your rebellion against God that's sin, whether you believe it or not.

Yes, we're all sinful. But I don't go around flaunting my sin and looking for reasons to justify it. That's what you're doing.
I havent rebelled against God. I pray to Him every night and tell Him I LOVE Him.

Scientific studies are not excuses. They have never been. They are explanations.

Also, about sins, if science is right and we are born with different brains to the ones belonging to the body we are at, then how could we be blamed? And if we can't be blamed for something then thats not a sin.
 

Underwhosewings

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True story.
A man had all the physical operations to be a woman.
He was told one day that he cannot go to heaven like that.
He repented and reversed all the physical operations.
Now that is repentance, outwardly and inwardly.
He gave his life to Christ.
 

PennEd

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I confess to God and pray every night!! Didnt you read my posts completely?

You say that we are not mistakes yet others say God doesnt make mistakes....Im confused!

Myself I think we are not mistakes, God makes us precisely how He wants us to be.

But I pray every night for my soul to be cleaned. Perhaps, Im not saying I will but perhaps, some of the Christians in this page would be surprised to find themselves in Hell some day while I am in Heaven, because there are many sins that are worse than being transgender. I don't know about that. But I know that I pray every night.

I can also see anger in some of these messages. Anger is a sin too. We, as in the church as a whole because I used to attend church but Im now far from one to attend, cannot act towards our newcomers, towards people who are wondering if they will be saved, like me, or towards fellow Christians, with anger. Because God does not like it when we do. We need to talk with love, with compassion and understanding.

And maybe yeah maybe I am trying to justify this. So? There is medical research going into this. Left propaganda, right propaganda> I dont know Im just a regular person like you so we can't exactly tell whether its propaganda or not. I am not involved in the media, the government, corporate, I dont know what they are trying to do or what is in their mind.

What I do know is that we suffer, we don't want to be this. Nobody in their right mind would want to be shamed, hated, called names, sometimes even murdered (in the Middle East and Africa). But we are this.

I think God , who knows how everyone feels, understands this.
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He did tell me in my vision as a kid that He was gonna be with me forever. He is my friend, i hope He understands me then.

I need your prayers and your love, not your anger and your hate.
I have shown zero anger and zero hate.

It is actually hateful to accuse someone of hate.
You’ve muddied the waters with contradictions.

If you have been born again that’s great!

Now live like you are. Living like a woman when you are a man is walking in sin.
You can stumble over and over and be forgiven, but you can’t live in that sin. That would prove you weren’t reborn.
 

ResidentAlien

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I havent rebelled against God. I pray to Him every night and tell Him I LOVE Him.

Scientific studies are not excuses. They have never been. They are explanations.

Also, about sins, if science is right and we are born with different brains to the ones belonging to the body we are at, then how could we be blamed? And if we can't be blamed for something then thats not a sin.
Do you have a Bible? Do you read it on a regular basis? Not just the parts about love and not judging, but the whole thing? I have a feeling the God you pray to may not be the same God I believe in: that is, the God of the Holy Bible.
 
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Colossians 3:5-6 KJV
Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness,
inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
[6] For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
Im not gay or bi, if thats what you mean by darkening that.
 

CS1

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Do you think transgenders go to heaven? I hear mixed opinions on the topic. Are people with those feelings supposed to stay the way they are and remain celibate for their lives?
there is no such thing as transgender. Therefore those who practice sin and have not repented and surrendered to Christ when they die do not go to Heaven. all who do such things (Sin) and die without Christ are lost. No one should celebrate that.
 
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I have shown zero anger and zero hate.

It is actually hateful to accuse someone of hate.
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Its actually not, when the accusation is true.

It could even be seen as an act of compassion because the person spilling the hate needs to know how it affects others and may change their ways and not commit that sin, which is much worse than transgenderism as some of might be born with transgenderism, which is something some here who say Im justifying it, do not understand. Hate on the other hand, is an evil thing. Christians who act with hate, forget in 15 minutes they could die in a car crash. And God does not tolerate haters when He himself loves everyone and forgives those who seek Him. I seek Him every night.
 

CS1

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You're asking us to do something that's wrong. You're asking us to judge. It not for us to judge others.

Judge not, that ye be not judged. (Matt. 7:1)​
we can say what it right and wrong and call sin what God says it sin. To lead one to Christ, they must hear they are a sinner and how Christ can save them. Telling the truth is not judgment; it is the greatest form of love one can show next to forgiveness.
 
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Do you have a Bible? Do you read it on a regular basis? Not just the parts about love and not judging, but the whole thing? I have a feeling the God you pray to may not be the same God I believe in: that is, the God of the Holy Bible.
I dont have a Bible I read regularly but I gave my life to Him as a member of the Methodist church aged 14. Following that I became, and technically am still, a member of the Baptist church.

The God I pray to and believe in is the same Christian God that you pray to and believe in.

(ED: I accidentally said "The God I spray to" lol)
 

CS1

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Its actually not, when the accusation is true.

It could even be seen as an act of compassion because the person spilling the hate needs to know how it affects others and may change their ways and not commit that sin, which is much worse than transgenderism as some of might be born with transgenderism, which is something some here who say Im justifying it, do not understand. Hate on the other hand, is an evil thing. Christians who act with hate, forget in 15 minutes they could die in a car crash. And God does not tolerate haters when He himself loves everyone and forgives those who seek Him. I seek Him every night.
no one is born transgender it is an identity crisis. Brought on by 1. abuse 2. pornography 3. taught it at an early age.
 

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I dont have a Bible I read regularly but I gave my life to Him as a member of the Methodist church aged 14. Following that I became, and technically am still, a member of the Baptist church.

The God I pray to and believe in is the same Christian God that you pray to and believe in.

(ED: I accidentally said "The God I spray to" lol)
being a Methodist, Baptist, or Pentacostel doesn't save a person Christ does. Membership is not a validation of a change life with God.
 
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no one is born transgender it is an identity crisis. Brought on by 1. abuse 2. pornography 3. taught it at an early age.
None of that happened to me. I was born that way. My nephew is also born that way and none of that happened to him either.

But even if that is how it forms, then still no one could blame us.
 
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being a Methodist, Baptist, or Pentacostel doesn't save a person Christ does. Membership is not a validation of a change life with God.
I didnt say it does. That is why I ask God to save my soul every night,
 

CS1

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None of that happened to me. I was born that way. My nephew is also born that way and none of that happened to him either.

But even if that is how it forms, then still no one could blame us.
well, I'm sorry to tell you are not being honest. Transgender is an identity issue, poor self-esteem, and of one who doesn't know their purpose in life. God doesn't make mistakes HE made the person who there are to be before they were born. As He formed you while you were yet in your mother's womb. Anyone who tells you that you were born a girl when you are a male has lied to you and is abused. Any Pastor who teaches transgender is ok is doing a great sin and will answer to the living God.
 

CS1

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I didnt say it does. That is why I ask God to save my soul every night,
you must walk away from the sin. God doesn't save a person in the sin but takes them out of it.

Believe who God made you to be when you were born in that Gender, not a false narrative and deception.