Ukraine the bad guy?

So, I would do that- but first I took a look at who Timothy Snyder actually is: and what I found, is that he's a political hack (imo) and probably a globalist. His cynical evaluation of MAGA populism is a gross, gross, gross mischaracterization; and if he can't objectively evaluate a movement in his own country, why would I think he can evaluate the geopolitical in and outs of Ukraine?

Russia invaded and has taken property and resources from a sovereign nation.

The USA has a 20+ year old treaty/contract to aide Ukraine if they were attacked by another nation and their sovereignty was at stake. (Fairly fresh as things go)

These two facts alone are more than enough justification for aiding Ukraine.

Doesn't matter if Ukraine's government has corruption or even traitors of their people....that is an Ukraine internal matter and not our concern. (We will snitch to Ukraine on their corrupt leaders)

The whole "nazi" thing has more to do with history and economics than actual hatred of Jews and world domination. Zelinsky is part Jewish himself. And Germany has given Ukraine Panzer tanks to fight off Russia. When the last time panzer tanks were in Ukraine it was for world domination by Germany. This whole claim of Nazi is more about Russian prejudices and bigotry than Ukranians. Russia just gave away Crimean generational homes to those "now russians" of Asian descent(not conscripted into being soldiers)to get them out of proper Russia. Because to Russia...neither of those two groups of people matter at all.

You are spouting almost verbatim Russian propaganda. You claim that you want to save lives...but the truth is that Russia only cares about certain people...those in Crimea and Ukrain, Chechnya, Romania, and Myanmar are completely expendable. They really have a track record of atrocities against each and every one of these people groups.

This may all be true, but this conflict must be viewed from the dismantling of USSR forward and the USA's geopolitical ambitions in that arena.

I think that Ukraine and Russia could have continued to co-exist, with Ukraine being a buffer state bewteen NATO and Russia, however the USA and its military industrial complex had different ambitions.

So if you think this is the an continuation of some historical conflict between Russia and Ukraine only you would be wrong.

Ukraine has been manipulated into this conflict by NATO and the USA.

Again wrong.
NATO is a DEFENSIVE treaty...one against offensive attacks and as such has DEFENSIVE weapons. Not offensive.

And yes there is a huge difference between the two even though you really (and Putin claims) don't know the difference.

There are no expeditionary amphibious assault teams for NATO...nor Expeditionary team training at all....because those teams are for invading. And there are certain weapons that go with assault invasion teams that defensive teams don't get.

Remember Iraq invasion? Power, Command and control, communications, radar were all primary targets of our troops. And when Russia invaded Ukraine they did the same thing. However, we haven't given Ukraine any of the specialized weapons to do any of that and NATO doesn't have any....ever!

The USA/NATO is not aiding Ukraine, they are ensuring its demise.

Seems to me like a double standard, the USA comes close to starting a nuclear war during the Cuban missile crisis over nukes near its border, but Russia cannot raise the same concerns when NATO continue to expand is border, something that was also promised would not happen.

You only present one side of the conflict.

Is it really, is that we have the dismantling of Yugoslavia by NATO.

Yugoslavia had not attacked any NATO member, yet this did not stop this “defensive” alliance from launching an offensive war on Yugoslavia and facilitating its dismemberment.

https://www.icty.org/en/press/final...-review-nato-bombing-campaign-against-federal


NATO may be once was defensive but it really is not.

Russia was invading sovereign countries during the 60's and busy becoming the USSR....just like Germany did 20 years previously. And then they were parking nuclear weapons at our front door to intimidate us into surrendering our sovereignty to them.
If the US government had finished what it was in process of doing there would not be any Russian people today. Which is the ONLY reason why they began begging for the US to stop and that they would immediately remove their missiles.

Is it really, is that we have the dismantling of Yugoslavia by NATO.

Yugoslavia had not attacked any NATO member, yet this did not stop this “defensive” alliance from launching an offensive war on Yugoslavia and facilitating its dismemberment.

https://www.icty.org/en/press/final...-review-nato-bombing-campaign-against-federal


NATO may be once was defensive but it really is not.

You disagree with facts from the Tribunal, what is the matter did it upset your paradigm of good NATO versus evil Russia.

Good day sir, I have nothing further to discuss with you.

Wow....you really don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.

The NATO bombing was again a request by a sovereign government that had been invaded by another nation to assist in the stopping of genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Uhhhh....yeah I disagree....especially with the facts so plainly laid out as I have done.

Just because you have a communist propaganda view of world history doesn't mean that I do.

Russia invaded and has taken property and resources from a sovereign nation.

The USA has a 20+ year old treaty/contract to aide Ukraine if they were attacked by another nation and their sovereignty was at stake. (Fairly fresh as things go)

These two facts alone are more than enough justification for aiding Ukraine.

Doesn't matter if Ukraine's government has corruption or even traitors of their people....that is an Ukraine internal matter and not our concern. (We will snitch to Ukraine on their corrupt leaders)

The whole "nazi" thing has more to do with history and economics than actual hatred of Jews and world domination. Zelinsky is part Jewish himself. And Germany has given Ukraine Panzer tanks to fight off Russia. When the last time panzer tanks were in Ukraine it was for world domination by Germany. This whole claim of Nazi is more about Russian prejudices and bigotry than Ukranians. Russia just gave away Crimean generational homes to those "now russians" of Asian descent(not conscripted into being soldiers)to get them out of proper Russia. Because to Russia...neither of those two groups of people matter at all.

You are spouting almost verbatim Russian propaganda. You claim that you want to save lives...but the truth is that Russia only cares about certain people...those in Crimea and Ukrain, Chechnya, Romania, and Myanmar are completely expendable. They really have a track record of atrocities against each and every one of these people groups.

Russia was invading sovereign countries during the 60's and busy becoming the USSR....just like Germany did 20 years previously. And then they were parking nuclear weapons at our front door to intimidate us into surrendering our sovereignty to them.
If the US government had finished what it was in process of doing there would not be any Russian people today. Which is the ONLY reason why they began begging for the US to stop and that they would immediately remove their missiles.

Uh huh. Is that why the West blew up the Nord stream pipeline?

Or was this the reason: (a doctrine which has evolved somewhat since then)....?

The first NATO Secretary General, Lord Ismay, stated the organization's goal was "to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down".

The US blew up the pipeline to insure that German/Russian relations (which were ENTIRELY FRIENDLY per Angela Merkel...."Russia was a dependable partner") would never improve to the extent of mutually beneficial prosperity, thereby risking US hegemony. Demonizing Russia is a crucial aspect of this doctrine, and inciting the sheeples to foster this attitude has become a propaganda full-court press.

You do realize that Scholz was entertaining the possibility of a brokered peace in Ukraine BEFORE that incident......correct?
Until the US nullified that option in dramatic fashion. A slap in the face to an ally that the German lap dogs took without so much as a whimper. Adn now guess what? The US now sells gas to Germany at a spectacular profit. Replacing Russia gas!

As a nephew of an Uncle HEAVILY involved with true intelligence operations....
Nothing you are saying is remotely true.

Right. Coming from that guy that absolutely declared the leaked Ukraine war documents to be fakes.

This sounds as nuts as the Lizard People administering Covid Vaccines as poison conspiracy theories.

As a nephew of an Uncle HEAVILY involved with true intelligence operations....
Nothing you are saying is remotely true.