In the Millennium age, no more pharmaceutical companies, no more landlords or corporate greed.

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“Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days,
or an old man who does not live out his years;
the one who dies at a hundred will be thought a mere child;
the one who fails to reach a a hundred will be considered accursed.
They will build houses and dwell in them; they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
No longer will they build houses and others live in them, or plant and others eat.
Isaiah 65:20
 
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The new Heaven and new Earth. What interests me is that people will die at all, and why sinners are mentioned. Very interesting passage. The whole thing is a good and encouraging read.
 
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Locoponydirtman said:
The new Heaven and new Earth. What interests me is that people will die at all, and why sinners are mentioned. Very interesting passage. The whole thing is a good and encouraging read.
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That passage would be speaking to the millennial reign with King Jesus on His throne in Jerusalem in the millennial Temple.
Sin...and sinners, and death.....will still be present in the world during that time.
But no presence of Satan and demons or their influence. And swift justice between men and nations.
And a tremendous healing of the land, biosphere and animal kingdom, and vastly longer life spans in a world filled with
the knowledge of God and peace on earth.

UNTIL....
Rev 20:7
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8
And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

THEN.....
The new heavens and new earth is when and where sin is forever gone, never to return.

Isa 65:17
For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Rev 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
 
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Just look forward to the day when there will be no more corporate greed or any kind of greed. People will live securely in their own homes. Never living in fear of losing it.
 
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cv5 said:
That passage would be speaking to the millennial reign with King Jesus on His throne in Jerusalem in the millennial Temple.
Sin...and sinners, and death.....will still be present in the world during that time.
But no presence of Satan and demons or their influence. And swift justice between men and nations.
And a tremendous healing of the land, biosphere and animal kingdom, and vastly longer life spans in a world filled with
the knowledge of God and peace on earth.

UNTIL....
Rev 20:7
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8
And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

THEN.....
The new heavens and new earth is when and where sin is forever gone, never to return.

Isa 65:17
For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Rev 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
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Look at how the passage is written.
“For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind. But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; For behold, I create Jerusalem as a rejoicing, And her people a joy. I will rejoice in Jerusalem, And joy in My people; The voice of weeping shall no longer be heard in her, Nor the voice of crying. “No more shall an infant from there live but a few days, Nor an old man who has not fulfilled his days; For the child shall die one hundred years old, But the sinner being one hundred years old shall be accursed.
Isaiah 65:17‭-‬20 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/isa.65.17-20.NKJV
 
cv5

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Locoponydirtman said:
Look at how the passage is written.
“For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind. But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; For behold, I create Jerusalem as a rejoicing, And her people a joy. I will rejoice in Jerusalem, And joy in My people; The voice of weeping shall no longer be heard in her, Nor the voice of crying. “No more shall an infant from there live but a few days, Nor an old man who has not fulfilled his days; For the child shall die one hundred years old, But the sinner being one hundred years old shall be accursed.
Isaiah 65:17‭-‬20 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/isa.65.17-20.NKJV
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IMO.....there will be a greater and lesser fulfillment of this (vv. 17) passage (double fulfillments are very common).
The greater is the Rev 21.1 event, which Peter elaborates upon. Peter cannot possibly be speaking about the millennial reign.....this is Rev 21.1 etc. Also....the DOTL that Peter refers to (rightly) covers the entire span of time to eternity future. Not just the 70th week or the SC or millennium or some other limited time frame.

2Pe 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

2Pe 3:12
Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
 
Lanolin

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what will we build the houses out of? I am wondering.
Its nice to have a vineyard in your backyard. Instead of pills, people would be picking grapes and popping. them into their mouths.

Also I think it would be cool to live to one hundred years old, but not be considered old. After all Jesus is way older, like thousands of years in eternity time.
 
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In the Millennium age, no more pharmaceutical companies, no more landlords or corporate greed.

Amen, brother!
No more cops to beat us over the head or doctors and lawyers to lift our wallets... no more wallets to lift! :)

Imagine that. :whistle:

Isaiah 11:6
“The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.”
 
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Locoponydirtman said:
Look at how the passage is written.
“For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind. But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; For behold, I create Jerusalem as a rejoicing, And her people a joy. I will rejoice in Jerusalem, And joy in My people; The voice of weeping shall no longer be heard in her, Nor the voice of crying. “No more shall an infant from there live but a few days, Nor an old man who has not fulfilled his days; For the child shall die one hundred years old, But the sinner being one hundred years old shall be accursed.
Isaiah 65:17‭-‬20 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/isa.65.17-20.NKJV
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It is written that way yes. But clearly this has to be about the millennium as Rev 21 tells us there is no death in new heaven and earth
 
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Revelation 18:21
And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
 
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Komentaja said:
It is written that way yes. But clearly this has to be about the millennium as Rev 21 tells us there is no death in new heaven and earth
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Yep. Probably a double fulfillment greater and lesser. Extremely common in prophecy.
 
Lanolin

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I dont trust a lot of doctors, some are in it only for the money, just like lawyers.

While justice and good health are important, doctors and lawyers turn it into a business and industry.

I know there are medical councils and ombudsmans etc to safeguard all that, but ethically many law firms and hospitals are run as buinesses get away with so much and corrupt their employees.

Same with schools. Teachers can be cruel or ignorant about the realities of learning...this is why false teachers are warned about in the Bible
 
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When you build your own house you can make it how YOU like instead of living inside someone elses house that was not made for you and is now rotting, damp, falling apart, an icebox in winter and sweltering in summer because they just built it with cheap materials on bad land with windows that cant open and or air con that doesnt even work. And heating that costs the earth.
 
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Komentaja said:
It is written that way yes. But clearly this has to be about the millennium as Rev 21 tells us there is no death in new heaven and earth
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cv5 said:
Yep. Probably a double fulfillment greater and lesser. Extremely common in prophecy.
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I agree, you often see greater and lesser fulfillments and also you see multiple fulfillments as though the can repeat. God is amazing in His Majesty and Wisdom.
 
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Lanolin said:
I dont trust a lot of doctors, some are in it only for the money, just like lawyers.

While justice and good health are important, doctors and lawyers turn it into a business and industry.

I know there are medical councils and ombudsmans etc to safeguard all that, but ethically many law firms and hospitals are run as buinesses get away with so much and corrupt their employees.

Same with schools. Teachers can be cruel or ignorant about the realities of learning...this is why false teachers are warned about in the Bible
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Why are you so negative and cynical? There are corrupt people in every industry. Teachers, doctors, lawyers are not exempt, but most (by far) follow their calling to serve and help others.
 
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Locoponydirtman said:
The new Heaven and new Earth. What interests me is that people will die at all, and why sinners are mentioned. Very interesting passage.
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The Millennium will be a prelude to the New Heavens and the New Earth.

So death will exist even until after the Millennium (as seen in the battle of God and Magog). After that will be the Great White Throne Judgment (and the termination of death on earth). Then the supernatural burning up of the earth and the atmospheric heaven will cleanse the earth. And only after that will the New Heavens and the New Earth be established, in which there will never again be any death or anything unpleasant or evil.

God already had a plan before He created the universe, and that plan included all of the above. It also included the perfect sacrifice of the Lamb of God -- the Lord Jesus Christ. Without that sacrifice, the universe could not be perfected. And neither could the saints be perfected.
 
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Lanolin said:
what will we build the houses out of? I am wondering.
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You do not need to wonder. God has already prepared mansions in the New Jerusalem in Heaven for all His children (John 14:1-3). The earth will also be populated, but the children of God have an eternal home in the New Jerusalem (a city built by God Himself).
 
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cv5 said:
Yep. Probably a double fulfillment greater and lesser. Extremely common in prophecy.
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Can you give me some more of these types of prophecies?
 
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JohnB said:
Just look forward to the day when there will be no more corporate greed or any kind of greed. People will live securely in their own homes. Never living in fear of losing it.
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Bad news, you will be waiting and waiting. Best to just get on with life.
 
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