Crucifixion on Wednesday, Thursday or Friday?

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1Co_15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

1Co_15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
Christ is the firstfruits, but those verses do not say that he had to be resurrected on the day of Firstfruits.
 
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Christ is the firstfruits, but those verses do not say that he had to be resurrected on the day of Firstfruits.
*face palm* Yes it does, for Paul is referring to OT texts, and appying to Christ Jesus, by inspiration of the Holy Ghost, who also inspired the OT texts.

Gen 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:​
Joh_1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.​
Joh_1:36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!​
Joh_5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.​
Jer_2:3 Israel was holiness unto the LORD, and the firstfruits of his increase: all that devour him shall offend; evil shall come upon them, saith the LORD.​
Hos 11:1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt. (Matthew 2:13-15,19-21; Jesus is the real Israel)
Eze_48:14 And they shall not sell of it, neither exchange, nor alienate the firstfruits of the land: for it is holy unto the LORD.​
Act_4:27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,​
Act_4:30 By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.​
 

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Christ is the firstfruits, but those verses do not say that he had to be resurrected on the day of Firstfruits.
The resurrection of Jesus follows the biblical patterns set forth in the feasts of Israel.
The Moedim are an intentional prophetic macrocode.

Jesus presenting himself as King on the 10th of Nisan and being cruxified 14th of Nisan is not coincidental. Obviously. His resurrection on the very day of the Feast of Firstfruits is likewise intentional.

Prophetic codified patterns (and their fulfillment) are EXCEEDINGLY common in the Bible. I am always amazed that Christians don't know about these things.

The Tabernacle the Temple and the Ark are loaded with patterns. Likewise the garments of the high priest. It's absolutely everywhere. Not only that God Himself gave Moses these patterns by literally dictating them to him. Same goes for King David and the pattern given to him for the Temple.
 
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The resurrection of Jesus follows the biblical patterns set forth in the feasts of Israel.
The Moedim are an intentional prophetic macrocode.

Jesus presenting himself as King on the 10th of Nisan and being cruxified 14th of Nisan is not coincidental. Obviously. His resurrection on the very day of the Feast of Firstfruits is likewise intentional.

Prophetic codified patterns (and their fulfillment) are EXCEEDINGLY common in the Bible. I am always amazed that Christians don't know about these things.

The Tabernacle the Temple and the Ark are loaded with patterns. Likewise the garments of the high priest. It's absolutely everywhere. Not only that God Himself gave Moses these patterns by literally dictating them to him. Same goes for King David and the pattern given to him for the Temple.
I agree about the total significance of the feasts and how they foreshadowed Christ. The first four spring feasts have been fulfilled, the three fall feasts are yet to come. But there is no reason that Christ had to be resurrected on the day of the firstfruits offering. I believe he was resurrected on late Saturday, and presented himself to God in the Temple the next day. God would not have kept Jesus Christ in the grave any longer than necessary, and he was buried before sunset on Wednesday, Nisan 14. If I'm wrong, I'll find out later.
 

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I agree about the total significance of the feasts and how they foreshadowed Christ. The first four spring feasts have been fulfilled, the three fall feasts are yet to come. But there is no reason that Christ had to be resurrected on the day of the firstfruits offering. I believe he was resurrected on late Saturday, and presented himself to God in the Temple the next day. God would not have kept Jesus Christ in the grave any longer than necessary, and he was buried before sunset on Wednesday, Nisan 14. If I'm wrong, I'll find out later.
Anytime after sundown Saturday is Sunday lol. Which is the feast of firstfruits. And yes there is no doubt whatsoever the Christ had to be resurrected on the day of the feast of firstfruits.
 
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Anytime after sundown Saturday is Sunday lol.
That's right. You get a cookie :)

Which is the feast of firstfruits. And yes there is no doubt whatsoever the Christ had to be resurrected on the day of the feast of firstfruits.
Scripture?
 
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It's a relatively simple task to provide sufficient textual evidence to show
that Jesus' crucified dead body was restored to life during the third day
rather than after the third day was over and done with.


The difficulty comes in tagging that third day because he wasn't actually
seen alive by anybody till after sunrise Sunday, although Luke 24:21-23
strongly suggests Sunday was the third day.


* There's something else.

According to Gen 1:4-5, Gen 1:14, Gen 1:16, Gen 1:17-18, and John 11:9-10,
actual days begin with sunrise. However, the first hour of the Jews' civil
days back then began at 06:00 am regardless of whether the Sun was up or
not. So, which kind of days was Jesus talking about in Matt 12:40: civil days
or actual days?


NOTE: Passover 2023 is April 5. Sunrise relative to that date in Jerusalem will
be 06:23 am.
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It's a relatively simple task to provide sufficient textual evidence to show
that Jesus' crucified dead body was restored to life during the third day
rather than after the third day was over and done with.


The difficulty comes in tagging that third day because he wasn't actually
seen alive by anybody till after sunrise Sunday, although Luke 24:21-23
strongly suggests Sunday was the third day.


* There's something else.

According to Gen 1:4-5, Gen 1:14, Gen 1:16, Gen 1:17-18, and John 11:9-10,
actual days begin with sunrise. However, the first hour of the Jews' civil
days back then began at 06:00 am regardless of whether the Sun was up or
not. So, which kind of days was Jesus talking about in Matt 12:40: civil days
or actual days?


NOTE: Passover 2023 is April 5. Sunrise relative to that date in Jerusalem will
be 06:23 am.
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Throughout Genesis chapter 1, the creation week, God refers to the completion of a day's work with "there was evening and there was morning - the first (second, third, etc.) day. God's defined day is sunset to sunset.
 

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Throughout Genesis chapter 1, the creation week, God refers to the
completion of a day's work with "there was evening and there was morning -
the first (second, third, etc.) day. God's defined day is sunset to sunset.

Two kinds of Days are defined in the first chapter of Genesis.

The first were natural days. (Gen 1:4-5, 1:14, 1:16, and 1:17-18)

The second were creation days. (Gen 1:5, 1:8, 1:13, 1:19, 1:23, and 1:31)

Natural days last only until the Sun goes down and night begins; whereas
creation days lasted for as long as the creator needed. In other words: the
evenings and mornings related to creation days weren't solar events. The
terms are merely index flags indicating the end of an unspecified period time
and the beginning of another.

In my experience, it's best to chart the chronology of crucifixion week with
the kinds of days and nights to which folks (especially children) are
accustomed in everyday life, viz: use natural days because creation days are
just too vague and just too controversial.
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Two kinds of Days are defined in the first chapter of Genesis.

The first were natural days. (Gen 1:4-5, 1:14, 1:16, and 1:17-18)

The second were creation days. (Gen 1:5, 1:8, 1:13, 1:19, 1:23, and 1:31)

Natural days last only until the Sun goes down and night begins; whereas
creation days lasted for as long as the creator needed. In other words: the
evenings and mornings related to creation days weren't solar events. The
terms are merely index flags indicating the end of an unspecified period time
and the beginning of another.


In my experience, it's best to chart the chronology of crucifixion week with
the kinds of days and nights to which folks (especially children) are
accustomed in everyday life, viz: use natural days because creation days are
just too vague and just too controversial.
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The prophetic Moedim ALWAYS specified erev-boker. That is the pattern to which we must hold to analyze the results.
 
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This year the days fall the same with Wednesday being the Passover preparation day.
Wednesday April 5 is Nisan 14. That would be crucifixion day when the Passover Lamb is sacrificed. Passover is that evening. Thursday Nisan 15 starts after sunset. They would eat the Passover Lamb and finish before morning.
Thursday April 6 is the first day of the feast of Unleavened Bread which lasts for 7 days. The first day is a high Sabbath and no work can be done.
Saturday April 8 is the weekly Sabbath.
Sunday April 9 is the Feast of First Fruits. According to what some have pointed out. the Feast of First Fruits falls on the first day of the week after the weekly Sabbath during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. It is always on a Sunday or the first day of the week.
The Feast of Unleavened Bread lasts 7 days and would end on the following Wednesday April 12 which is another high Sabbath day one week after the Passover Lamb was Sacrificed.
 

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Crucifixion on Wednesday, Thursday or Friday?
He was crucified on Thursday, 6th April 30 AD...

Check out all the Jewish calendars from 25 - 35 AD and the 3 days and 3 nights in the "bowels of the earth" and the above is the only thing that fulfils the Scripture...
 

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Jesus Christ was crucified on Friday.
In the Old Testament, darkness is called night and light is called day.
The darkness that prevailed over everything during crucifixion, from noon to 3 P.M. is the first night. The second night is Friday to Saturday and the third night Saturday to Sunday.
 

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It is my understanding that the Jews of that time counted any part of a day as a full day; therefore, I vote for Friday.
 

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It is my understanding that the Jews of that time counted any part of a day as a full day; therefore, I vote for Friday.
That theory has a lot going for it.
 

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Your Thursday is our Wednesday, and your Saturday is our Friday,Your Monday is our Sunday.
 

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We need to smile.. has anyone had the idea.. lets just move it to Tuesday? I can work with that
 

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Matthew 12:40 - For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
I don’t understand the post how does this scripture raise the question of what day of the week Jesus was crucified ?

Also are we aware and considering the change of the calandar ? And lost time Between then and now ?

Our calendar is different by 10-11 days which throws off all our calculations by todays standards since I believe the 1500s -1700s
 

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Matthew 12:40 - For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Roman-calendar Wednesday. On Pascha at exactly the moment the national lamb is slaughtered.
Risen before dawn on Firstfruits - the day after sabbath
 

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Matthew 12:40 - For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
“And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭15:42‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,( evening ) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.”
‭‭John‬ ‭19:31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

‘Twas the day of preparation Jesus was crucified and before the evening fell and Passover began , he died and was taken down from the cross.

the issue however is the jewish calandar which tells us about the days of thier feasts and celebrations and sabbaths is totally different from romes in Jesus day , and then later in the 1500s to 1700s you had the whole controversy between Julian calendars and Gregorian calendars

when they switched over we lot eleven days time so Monday now would be eleven days prior in Jesus time so what the world knows as Monday now , it would fall on a Thursday eleven days prior in the time of the writing of the gospel

and even more complicating the matter is when the laws of Passover were given the Hebrews had thier own calandar with 13 months so the days of the week are again re calculated when we’re trying to calculate the actual day of something

We know for sure jesus was crucified on the day before Passover the preparation day and taken down before evening fell and Passover began. Because the law doesn’t allow dead bodies to hang on trees on a sabbath day ( which begins the evening of preparation day )

but what we don’t know is are the apostles writing according to Greek knowledge ? Or Hebrew knowledge ? what calandar did each gospel writer consider and write according to ?

I don’t actually think it matters to God of we celebrate the resurrection Friday , or Sunday Monday or Thursday , But that we acknolwedge it always

Its lost in translation of the calandars