Baptist and Baptism

God is ONE and God is also THREE in One. This is "the Mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ". Why do people stumble over this, rather than simply believe it without trying to rationalize it or explain it? No one needs to explain God to anyone.

As per the link I'm going to post: 'for' .. in the Greek is 'eis'.. which can mean 'in reference to'... like 'regarding' .. it isn't a conditional clause thing where the absence of the water baptism means the person is unsaved.

There are other verses that have remission of sin WITHOUT baptism. That should tell you something about receiving eternal life.

It is a command to be baptised after salvation.. but following commands isn't the way of salvation. Because we fail in that all the time. It's by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, who is God and Saviour.

https://wbmoore.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/what-is-meant-by-baptism-for-remission-of-sins/

“Kefa answered them, “Turn from sin, return to God, and each of you be immersed on the authority of Yeshua the Messiah into forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Ruach HaKodesh!”
‭‭Acts of Emissaries of Yeshua (Act)‬ ‭2‬:‭38‬ ‭CJB‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/1275/act.2.38.CJB

Be immersed into forgiveness of sins. To me, this seems to more accurately reflect the Greek manuscripts. The medium for immersion is actually given in the verse itself. You don’t have to assume it’s a water immersion. No water is mentioned.

This mirrors exactly what we see here.

“In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1‬:‭13‬ ‭ESV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/59/eph.1.13.ESV

Doesn’t this describe an immersion into Christ by the Holy Spirit.

Immersion into Christ is immersion into forgiveness of sins.

“in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1‬:‭14‬ ‭ESV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/59/col.1.14.ESV

So you are United Pentecostal? It always astonishes me when people ignore Matt 28:20

"Go, therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,"

What do you do with this verse? It was right from the mouth of Jesus!

The Bible says we are immersed by the HS into Christ. Baptism in water is not salvic.. That is a misconception sadly not unlike the jew trying to insert another tradition That represented Cleansing (circumcision) as required for salvation

Is it not also written thatt we should go out into the world and baptize those who come to the Lord in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit?

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Water baptism is necessary for salvation for we have to identify with the man Christ Jesus who died, was buried, and rose again by repenting of our sins, being water baptized, and receiving the Holy Spirit.

Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Water baptism is for the remission of sins.

Remission.

aphesis
af'-es-is
From G863; freedom; (figuratively) pardon: - deliverance, forgiveness, liberty, remission.

It is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus, and the saints have to identify with that but some people try to take away the middle process saying it is not necessary.

1Th 1:3 Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father.

2Th 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power.

Some people say it is a work to be water baptized, and we are not saved by works, but faith is a work, confessing Jesus is a work, repenting of our sins is a work, for everything we do is a work.

Water baptism is part of the salvation process for Jesus went through 3 steps to save us.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

A person has to be born of water and the Spirit to enter in to the kingdom of God.

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection.

Water baptism is necessary for salvation.

1Pe 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
1Pe 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

This says water baptism does now save us.

And baptism is to be done in Jesus' name.

For there is no other name under heaven whereby people are saved, and everything we do in deed and in word we do all in the name of Jesus.

Baptize in the name Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, which says name singular and that name is Jesus, and Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are titles not names.

Jesus said I am come in my Father's name.

The Son inherited the name from the Father.

The Holy Spirit comes in the name of Jesus.

Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritans were all baptized in the name Jesus, and the people that were baptized by John had to be baptized in Jesus' name.

The command to be water baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus for remission of sin was instituted by God for all those living in the NT after Jesus' death, burial and resurrection. The Jews wanted those obedient to the NT command of water baptism to abide by God's OT mandate of circumcision as well. God instituted the commands specific to each the Old and New Testament; therefore, neither was a manmade tradition.

Yes it does. What is the name?

amen really great post here’s some scripture to support what you’re saying

“The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:1, 4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance:

but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:11‬ ‭KJ

“And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, and said unto them,

Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:44-48‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

For John truly baptized with water;

but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judæa, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭1:4-5, 8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:”

“And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judæa, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, And your young men shall see visions, And your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:2-4, 14-18‬ ‭


The promise of the father

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, ( water for repentance and remission )

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.( spirit from Jesus ) For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38-39, 41‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God.

Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:44-48‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:14, 18, 22, 26-27, 29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Paul was told his sins would be washed away upon obedience to water baptism. (Acts 22:16) And Paul explained what actually occurs upon obedience to the God-given command to be water baptized; those who obey have been buried with Jesus into His death wherein their sins are destroyed. (Romans 6:3-6) Verse 5 states, IF we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection. That little word IF reveals much.

Paul certainly understood water baptism to be far more than just a public display.

You are referencing the Holy Spirit empowering a church here AND water baptism. Acts 2.. at Pentecost.. is a group of already saved believers being empowered.

The disciples were surely saved before they had the Holy Spirit come 'in the midst' of them.

You gotta seperate the different types of works of the Holy Spirit out. Then it becomes clear what is about individual salvation and what is a different work of the Holy Spirit.

A group of believers being empowered by the Holy Spirit isn't getting eternal salvation.

What is the name?

The Name Game

Careful. You'll be doing the Freddie next.

Kruger, or Mercury? .

Yes it does. What is the name?

Following commands.. believers fail in very often. Acts of service to God after being saved we waver in. We can do them of course.. and God wants us to do them.. but He knows we can't do them 100 percent.

Romans 6-- also isn't about water baptism. This is the work of regeneration of the Holy Spirit when a sinner entrusts their salvation with Jesus.

Water baptism by immersion is a picture of the salvation process, and a commitment to a life salvaged to God. It's a picture of what has already been done in a believers life.. not the means of eternal salvation.

And I'm done with this.

It is the name of God. The word God may be traced back to Sanskrit where the trail fades, not going to its actual root beginning.
It could be Elohim, the plural of El, which in erstqhile times meant the mighty ones and became used as we use the word, God, today. El would be the singular.
Perhaps you are awaiting the title Yahweh which my research and my thingking says it is the gerund, noun, form of the Hebrew word, haya, which is the infinitive, to be. However this version of our ver, to be, is tansitive, not intransitive. Ergo it means to will to be something no human may attain to perform.
There are many other titles describing our Maker, however His singular name will not be revealed until Yahweh turns us all back to a pure tongue so we may all call Him by One Name, Zepheniah.
You and I could go on and on forever.

**bye the way, the name and its meaning gives some light to the fact that our Maker is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, but that light comes with revelation or with prayerful meditation upon its meaning.

The Name Game