Whom Did Christ Die For?

I never asked you about whoever will may Come

I asked you about Jerusalem. And Jesus saying they were not willing to do what he willed. he wanted. so he could not do what he willed.

Its not much good studying like mad if you cannot bring yourself to honestly address the question asked. You know you have previously stated only the law of love is in believers hearts. Im not going to scroll through all your posts to find it, so I guess if you want to deny the truth you can

You kept making the point about whosoever will can believe in Christ, so I responded to it.

Will you answer what Jesus said.

I am done playing your silly game

Its OK, these sites are predominantly full of people who just want to quote scripture to others to show the knowledge they believe they have. Pride basically, so even if people have to fib, or avoid answering honestly they will, if they think it will affect their street cred on the site. It was your turn to answer, but as you wont we must leave it there

So you have falsly accused me three times. And will not answer a direct question which would place your belief in question.

Typical response..

I think you have shown yourself.. When your ready to talk come see me.. You made it too easy,

For crying out loud, Jesus Christ died for everyone. John 3.16-18 makes that emphatically clear. Whoever espouses otherwise is a disrespectful heretic to Christ crucified, dead, buried and Resurrected, and is completely void of any Truth given by the Holy Spirit.

Jesus died for the world . Everyone

What is the big surprise that the Jews rejected Christ.

This is one of the greatest mysteries of the universe, since the Jews had absolutely every reason to receive Christ as Lord and Savior. Here is their exalted position before God (Rom 9:4,5):
1. Who are Israelites;
2. to whom pertaineth the adoption,
3. and the glory,
4. and the covenants,
5. and the giving of the law,
6. and the service of God,
7. and the promises;
8. Whose are the fathers,
9. and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came,
10. who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

According to this each and every Jew should have been saved, either before or after the resurrection of Christ.

I study my biblical theology from recognized scholars, not people found on the Internet. So, am I the one trying to distort the truth of God?

The 1901 American Standard Version is described in Wikipedia thus: "It was often printed using lower quality paper and binding, and was perceived to be excessively literal. It never achieved wide popularity, apart from some Protestant seminaries." Being "literal" is one reason why it is an excellent study Bible that was used in Protestant seminaries. Hebrews 2:9 in the ASV reads as follows -

"But we behold him who hath been made a little lower than the angels, even Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that by the grace of God he should taste of death for every man." (Heb 2:9)

The word "man" is in italics in the ASV indicates a word added by translators that is not in the Greek. That makes it a matter of interpretation, which calls for paying attention to the context.

The New Greek/English Interlinear New Testament USB5 5th Edition Nestle-Aland 28th Edition, 2020c reads on the phrase "on behalf of all he might taste death". All what or who? Context answers that question in the next verse< Heb 2:10, KJV/ASV/NRSV - "many sons", NRSV "many children",

Thayer's Greek Lexicon - Defines the word πᾶς as all, every and the bold and italics indicates the basic meaning of the word.

The BDAG Greek-English Lexicon defines the word, "pert. to totality with focus on its individual components, each, every, any" and again the bold italics indicate the basic meaning. Again, "each, every, any" of what or who. Context in Hebrews tells us.

From the Baptist John Gill on this verse:

" the word "man" is not in the original text, it is only υπερ παντος, which may be taken either collectively, and be rendered "for the whole"; that is, the whole body, the church for whom Christ gave himself, and is the Saviour of; or distributively, and be translated, "for everyone"; for everyone of the sons God brings to glory, Heb 2:10 for everyone of the "brethren", whom Christ sanctifies, and he is not ashamed to own, and to whom he declares the name of God, Heb 2:11 for everyone of the members of the "church", in the midst of which he sung praise, Heb 2:12 for every one of the "children" God has given him, and for whose sake he took part of flesh and blood, Heb 2:13 and for everyone of the "seed" of Abraham, in a spiritual sense, whose nature he assumed, Heb 2:16.

It looks to me as you are the one "who is trying to DISTORT THE TRUTH." John Gill is still read and respected 300 years after he wrote. I wonder how many of today's self-appointed authorities will be read 300 years from now?

I study my biblical theology from recognized scholars, not people found on the Internet.

Right. I agree that they should have known. But it is in the nature of unredeemed man to rebel and their rejection was foretold.

Right. I agree that they should have known. But it is in the nature of unredeemed man to rebel and their rejection was foretold.

One Scripture shold suffice: But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. (Heb 2:9)

This is an exact translation for the Greek: τὸν δὲ βραχύ τι παρ' ἀγγέλους ἠλαττωμένον βλέπομεν Ἰησοῦν διὰ τὸ πάθημα τοῦ θανάτου δόξῃ καὶ τιμῇ ἐστεφανωμένον ὅπως χάριτι θεοῦ ὑπὲρ παντὸς* γεύσηται θανάτου

*Strong's Concordance
pas: all, every
Original Word: πᾶς, πᾶσα, πᾶν
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: pas
Phonetic Spelling: (pas)
Definition: all, every
Usage: all, the whole, every kind of.