Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked
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And He also followed thru with the rest.
Rom 9:11
(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)
Rom 11:5
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Rom 9:16
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Rom 9:11
(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)
Rom 11:5
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Rom 9:16
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
And He also followed thru with the rest.
Rom 9:11
(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
Rom 11:5
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Rom 9:16
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Rom 9:11
(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
Rom 11:5
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Rom 9:16
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
I have to look at these in context.
Rom 11:5
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Major crisis. Exactly 7001 true worshippers remaining. And it would seem that if God had NOT INTERVENED, Elijah would have been raptured and there would have been NONE left in Israel.
1Ki 19:14
And he said, “I have been very zealous for the LORD God of hosts; because the children of Israel have forsaken Your covenant, torn down Your altars, and killed Your prophets with the sword. I alone am left; and they seek to take my life.”
1Ki 19:18
“Yet I have reserved seven thousand in Israel, all whose knees have not bowed to Baal, and every mouth that has not kissed him.”
Isa 1:9
Unless the LORD of hosts
Had left to us a very small remnant,
We would have become like Sodom,
We would have been made like Gomorrah.
Rom 9:27
Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel
“Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea,
The remnant will be saved.
Rom 9:28
For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness,
Because the LORD will make a short work upon the earth.”
Rom 9:29
And as Isaiah said before:
“Unless the LORD of Sabaoth had left us a seed,
We would have become like Sodom,
And we would have been made like Gomorrah.”
Sin cannot enter heaven. In the story where I end up killing a person, unless I repent and turn from sin I cannot enter heaven. I can not live in sin, live a continual sinful lifestyle and gain heaven. That is an abuse of God's grace. Otherwise what the pastor said that I quoted earlier in this thread is true. No matter what sin is committed, he believes he's going to heaven.
