Does God desire the salvation of all mankind?

No And I want to donate my electric guitar and amp to my church worship team

No And I want to donate my electric guitar and amp to my church worship team

I have offered it... someone just needs to come and pick it up!

No, I'd say God doesn't wish for everyone to be saved.

God is not the one who faces the mountain. Look what Jesus tells this woman in Verse 34...YOUR FAITH HAS MADE YOU WHOLE.

Jesus didn't say His FAITH, He said her FAITH.

Whoever taught you your beliefs has to be rotting in Hell!

I'd say God doesn't wish for everyone to be saved.

For God so loved the world . . .

John 3: 16 God so loved the world, but only those that believe in His Son will not perish, but have everlasting life.

No, I'd say God doesn't wish for everyone to be saved.

He tells us through Jesus' ministry that no one can come to him unless he calls them.
Meanwhile, we learn our natural mind can't hear his call, understand the things of his Holy Spirit, because that understanding is spiritually received. The only thing that changes this natural mind blockage of all things holy is if God's holy spirit intervenes.

And even then salvation and faith comes by God's grace. So , his Holy Spirit has to intervene for us to hear him call us into his grace.

That tells me salvation is conditioned on God making it possible. Even in being able to hear him call us to his grace, gospel. Otherwise, it is all foolishness to those of natural mind.

A condition that remains on place unless God changes that.

This is why those in whom God changed these things are called God's elect.

If God wanted to save everybody he could.

But he didn't.

Ephesians 8:2-3
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

John 3: 16 God so loved the world, but only those that believe in His Son will not perish, but have everlasting life.

The logical end of Calvinism... "No, I'd say God doesn't wish for everyone to be saved."

Again a verse cherry picked from its surrounding text, Paul is not teaching the natural man cannot understand spiritual things, what he is saying in context is that spiritual things cannot be understood through human wisdom and philosophies.

He speaking to people of the Greek culture who held human philosophy in high regard.

Paul makes it clear here that the sacred writings can give the wisdom that is needed....

“…from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness…” (2 Tim. 3:15-16)


And yes people do and are able to seek after truth of their own volition and agency, the problem is human philosophies get in the way not because a person has no ability to understand.

By Grace God gives us the Faith to use. No one said we had Faith on our own.

For God so loved the world . . .

These are all the same old tired Calvinistic ideas which have no basis is Scripture properly interpreted. Even John Calvin has contradicted what you just said.

Here is Calvin's commentary on John3:17: For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

"17. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world. It is a confirmation of the preceding statement; for it was not in vain that God sent his own Son to us. He came not to destroy; and therefore it follows, that it is the peculiar office of the Son of God, that all who believe may obtain salvation by him. There is now no reason why any man should be in a state of hesitation, or of distressing anxiety, as to the manner in which he may escape death, when we believe that it was the purpose of God that Christ should deliver us from it. The word world is again repeated, that no man may think himself wholly excluded, if he only keep the road of faith.

The word judge (prino) is here put for condemn, as in many other passages. When he declares that he did not come to condemn the world, he thus points out the actual design of his coming; for what need was there that Christ should come to destroy us who were utterly ruined? We ought not, therefore, to look at any thing else in Christ, than that God, out of his boundless goodness chose to extend his aid for saving us who were lost; and whenever our sins press us -- whenever Satan would drive us to despair -- we ought to hold out this shield, that God is unwilling that we should be overwhelmed with everlasting destruction, because he has appointed his Son to be the salvation of the world."

Notice carefully Calvin's choice of words. He is interpreting John 3:17 exactly as Christ meant it to be interpreted. That God desires the salvation of all mankind.

What's the rest? In context as relates to sustaining passages?

''...that whosoever believeth in him.... ''

Belief comes by the grace of God! Not if ourselves so that none can brag they chose Jesus.

Because the natural mind cannot understand the things of God unless God changes their mind.

That's contrary to God's own words.

Are you going to accuse God of being a Calvinist?

You stated, “I'd say God doesn't wish for everyone to be saved.” Nowhere is that supported in Scripture. What is supported in Scripture is that God desires everyone to be saved, however you and I agree people who don’t have faith in Jesus Christ are not saved.

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Thanks for the welcome.

And I disagree. That God doesn't wish for all to be saved is supported by scripture.
Jesus taught in parables for that very reason.

Thanks for CONTRADICTING Scripture. Anyone can see that you are refusing to accept the truth and continue to love the lies. Let's post another Scripture which refutes your claim )John 1:12,13): But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

So which comes first the believing or the New Birth? The answer is obvious except to those who deliberately twist the Scriptures. And no one can be born again unless the gift of the Holy Spirit is given first. But the Holy Spirit is only given to those who repent and believe (Acts 2:38).

Dead means to be separated, it does not stop the act of believing.