Observing the sabbath???

If Christ came to fulfill the Law to free us from keeping it, then why does He say that whoever Does and teaches the commands will be called Great in the kingdom? Matt 5:19

Also, the law came because of transgression. Gal 3:19 Transgression of what? Before the Law was given by YHWH there had to be a standard for there to be transgression.

And 1 John 3:4 states clearly that sin is the transgression of the Law.

The Sabbath is part of the law of love.. under grace you can Remember to keep the Sabbath Holy..

I can only speak as to what the scripture says and what the Father teaches me. Each of us will stand before the Judgement Seat of Christ. If it says sin is the transgression of the Law, I will seek the LORD to be in right standing with Him. I would not know what sin is without the law. So, it is good, holy, and spiritual. a spiritual man will seek to understand deeply.
I do not look for a list to check off and I do not believe that was the heart of the Father when He inspired men to pen His words. 2 Tim 3:16 makes it clear what the relationship between a New Covenant Believer should have with the Law. Which also lines up with Jesus' prophecy in Matt 5:19 b.
I am not here to stir controversy or strife but, to learn from and be encouraged by those that call upon the LORD from a pure heart.
I, personally, appreciate those that add something to my walk, to provoke me to seek deeper on issue that they believe are of value. I desire to do the same.

If Christ came to fulfill the Law to free us from keeping it, then why does He say that whoever Does and teaches the commands will be called Great in the kingdom? Matt 5:19

Also, the law came because of transgression. Gal 3:19 Transgression of what? Before the Law was given by YHWH there had to be a standard for there to be transgression.

And 1 John 3:4 states clearly that sin is the transgression of the Law.

We are free of all legalistic restraints. Christ looks upon the inner man. As I posted in your other thread...

The law is 613 commandments, as far as I understand, not only the 10 commandments.

Are we allowed to buy or sell on the sabbath?? Can we eat out on the sabbath??? Are we allowed to cook- prepare meals on sabbath??? Any help?

Not only are Christians free from the Law of Moses, but anyone attempting to continue in that Law is asking for trouble.

Are we allowed to buy or sell on the sabbath?? Can we eat out on the sabbath??? Are we allowed to cook- prepare meals on sabbath??? Any help?

There were different laws.
In post 96 i showed many differences between the cerimonial laws and the 10 commandments.

Two different laws....
Compare Moses Law and
God's Ten Commandment Law
MANY people often confuse Moses Law with God's Ten Commandment Law, but they are very different.
Moses' law was the temporary, ceremonial law of the Old Testament. It regulated the priesthood, sacrifices, rituals, and offerings, etc., all of which foreshadowed the cross. This law was added "till the seed should come," and that seed was Christ (Galatians 3:16, 19). The ritual and ceremony of Moses' law pointed forward to Christ's sacrifice. When He died, this law came to an end, but the Ten Commandments (God's law) "stand fast for ever and ever." Psalm 111:7,8.
There are two laws that are made crystal clear in the following verses below. Daniel 9:10 is talking about God's law and verse 11 is talking about Moses' law:
"Neither have we obeyed the voice of the LORD our God, to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets."
"Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him." Daniel 9:10,11
Please note that God's law also called the Ten Commandments or moral law has existed at least as long as sin has existed. The Bible says, "Where no law is, there is no transgression [or sin]." Romans 4:15. So God's Ten Commandment law existed from the beginning. Men broke that law. "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4 Because of sin (or breaking God's law), Moses law was given (or "added" Galatians 3:16, 19) till Christ should come and die. Two separate laws involved: God's law or Ten Commandments and Moses law.
To summarize the above. When God led the children of Israel out of Egyptian bondage, He delivered to them in fiery majesty the Ten Commandments. This Holy law was spoken by God, written by God, recorded on tables of stone, and is of eternal duration. At the same time the ceremonial law, of temporary usage, was also delivered to the children of Israel. This law dealt with the ceremonial rites of the Jewish sanctuary service, and concerned itself with a system of religion that passed away at the cross. Large sections of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy describe in detail this temporary law. The ceremonial law can easily be identified in scripture. It talks about circumcision (a religious Jewish rite), sacrifices, offerings, purifications, holy days and other rites associated with the Hebrew sanctuary service.

Moses' law.
1. Called "Law contained in ordinances"
EPH. 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.
2. Written by Moses in a book, 2 CHRON. 35:12 And they removed the burnt offerings, that they might give according to the divisions of the families of the people, to offer unto the LORD, as it is written in the book of Moses. And so did they with the oxen.
3. Placed in the side of the ark
DEUT. 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
4. Ended at the cross
EPH. 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.
5. Added because of sin
GAL. 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
6. Contrary to us, against us
COL. 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.
7. Judges no man
COL. 2:14-16 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
8. Carnal
HEB. 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
9. Made nothing perfect
HEB. 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

• The 10 Commandments.
1. Called "the Royal law"
JAMES 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
2. Written by God on stone
EXO. 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
EXO. 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables
3. Placed inside the ark
EXO. 40:20 And he took and put the testimony into the ark, and set the staves on the ark, and put the mercy seat above upon the ark:
4. Will stand forever
LUKE 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
5. Points out sin
ROM. 7:7 What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
ROM. 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
6. Not grievous
1 JOHN 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
7. Judges all men
JAM. 2:10-12 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
8. Spiritual
ROM. 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
9. Perfect
PSALMS 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Can you see the difference?

What about not killing and not stealing?
The law tell us not to take Gods name in vain, and to honour our mother and father. Should i forget the law completely or just forget 1/10 of the law.

I can only speak as to what the scripture says and what the Father teaches me. Each of us will stand before the Judgement Seat of Christ. If it says sin is the transgression of the Law, I will seek the LORD to be in right standing with Him. I would not know what sin is without the law. So, it is good, holy, and spiritual. a spiritual man will seek to understand deeply.
I do not look for a list to check off and I do not believe that was the heart of the Father when He inspired men to pen His words. 2 Tim 3:16 makes it clear what the relationship between a New Covenant Believer should have with the Law. Which also lines up with Jesus' prophecy in Matt 5:19 b.
I am not here to stir controversy or strife but, to learn from and be encouraged by those that call upon the LORD from a pure heart.
I, personally, appreciate those that add something to my walk, to provoke me to seek deeper on issue that they believe are of value. I desire to do the same.

What about not killing and not stealing?
The law tell us not to take Gods name in vain, and to honour our mother and father. Should i forget the law completely or just forget 1/10 of the law.

Precious friend, respectfully disagree; In Today's Grace Dispensation, we
find:

1) Christ Lives In us, To Fulfil:

All Of His Law, In "One Word: Love thy neighbor as thyself!"
(Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)

No mention of Sabbath in these; however, where it is mentioned:

2) Liberty and freedom to choose:


3) Some of us are "fully persuaded in our own mind" that the
Sabbath is "a shadow" of The Reality Of The True Sabbath, The
Saviour Jesus Christ, thus we rest In HIM, 24/7:


Conclusion: the 'sabbath remnant' group claiming (like other religious
groups) that "they ALONE are God's people" because the rest of us
non-sabbath keepers have taken the 'Sunday or 7-day worship of Christ'
"mark of the beast" are sadly mistaken.

God (The Only Righteous Judge) Does Not permit "this judging of others,"
Who Are Saved By His Grace/Mercy, NOT religious doctrine. Amen?

-----------------------------------------
Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II)!

There were different laws.
In post 96 i showed many differences between the cerimonial laws and the 10 commandments.

Two different laws....
Compare Moses Law and
God's Ten Commandment Law
MANY people often confuse Moses Law with God's Ten Commandment Law, but they are very different.
Moses' law was the temporary, ceremonial law of the Old Testament. It regulated the priesthood, sacrifices, rituals, and offerings, etc., all of which foreshadowed the cross. This law was added "till the seed should come," and that seed was Christ (Galatians 3:16, 19). The ritual and ceremony of Moses' law pointed forward to Christ's sacrifice. When He died, this law came to an end, but the Ten Commandments (God's law) "stand fast for ever and ever." Psalm 111:7,8.
There are two laws that are made crystal clear in the following verses below. Daniel 9:10 is talking about God's law and verse 11 is talking about Moses' law:
"Neither have we obeyed the voice of the LORD our God, to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets."
"Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him." Daniel 9:10,11
Please note that God's law also called the Ten Commandments or moral law has existed at least as long as sin has existed. The Bible says, "Where no law is, there is no transgression [or sin]." Romans 4:15. So God's Ten Commandment law existed from the beginning. Men broke that law. "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4 Because of sin (or breaking God's law), Moses law was given (or "added" Galatians 3:16, 19) till Christ should come and die. Two separate laws involved: God's law or Ten Commandments and Moses law.
To summarize the above. When God led the children of Israel out of Egyptian bondage, He delivered to them in fiery majesty the Ten Commandments. This Holy law was spoken by God, written by God, recorded on tables of stone, and is of eternal duration. At the same time the ceremonial law, of temporary usage, was also delivered to the children of Israel. This law dealt with the ceremonial rites of the Jewish sanctuary service, and concerned itself with a system of religion that passed away at the cross. Large sections of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy describe in detail this temporary law. The ceremonial law can easily be identified in scripture. It talks about circumcision (a religious Jewish rite), sacrifices, offerings, purifications, holy days and other rites associated with the Hebrew sanctuary service.

Moses' law.
1. Called "Law contained in ordinances"
EPH. 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.
2. Written by Moses in a book, 2 CHRON. 35:12 And they removed the burnt offerings, that they might give according to the divisions of the families of the people, to offer unto the LORD, as it is written in the book of Moses. And so did they with the oxen.
3. Placed in the side of the ark
DEUT. 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
4. Ended at the cross
EPH. 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.
5. Added because of sin
GAL. 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
6. Contrary to us, against us
COL. 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.
7. Judges no man
COL. 2:14-16 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
8. Carnal
HEB. 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
9. Made nothing perfect
HEB. 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

• The 10 Commandments.
1. Called "the Royal law"
JAMES 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
2. Written by God on stone
EXO. 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
EXO. 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables
3. Placed inside the ark
EXO. 40:20 And he took and put the testimony into the ark, and set the staves on the ark, and put the mercy seat above upon the ark:
4. Will stand forever
LUKE 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
5. Points out sin
ROM. 7:7 What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
ROM. 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
6. Not grievous
1 JOHN 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
7. Judges all men
JAM. 2:10-12 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
8. Spiritual
ROM. 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
9. Perfect
PSALMS 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Can you see the difference?

I can only speak as to what the scripture says and what the Father teaches me. Each of us will stand before the Judgement Seat of Christ. If it says sin is the transgression of the Law, I will seek the LORD to be in right standing with Him. I would not know what sin is without the law. So, it is good, holy, and spiritual. a spiritual man will seek to understand deeply.
I do not look for a list to check off and I do not believe that was the heart of the Father when He inspired men to pen His words. 2 Tim 3:16 makes it clear what the relationship between a New Covenant Believer should have with the Law. Which also lines up with Jesus' prophecy in Matt 5:19 b.
I am not here to stir controversy or strife but, to learn from and be encouraged by those that call upon the LORD from a pure heart.
I, personally, appreciate those that add something to my walk, to provoke me to seek deeper on issue that they believe are of value. I desire to do the same.

"To provoke me to seek deeper"
Angela, married, 9 Kids, you fullfill what it is to be a wife and a mother.

To be a God fearing woman? To be subordinate to her husband, quiet, praying and doing good deeds to fellow believers widows and orphans?
It seems like godfearing women in the Bible are so different than women are in the church now a days.
Where they appear and are promoted in the churches in an ungodly manner, women who believe in their own conviction more than they believe in the Word.

The law came because of transgression.

It makes no sense to say that the law came because of transgression to the law. Although the people transgressed that too.


The Law came because of transgression against God. What was this transgression? It was rejecting His Grace. Complaining about His Provision, wanting to go back to the old ways in Egypt.