The State of the World Today! Is it the Endtimes??????

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Dude653

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I never said it was the only cause and I do not have to have "mental health credentials" to quote a study and refer to experts in the field. I taught science in school and that included talking about the effects of drug use.
You said you would immediately assume the person is on drugs.
I had a stepmother who was bipolar and schizophrenic and she used to throw away food because she thought the government was trying to poison us
 

ZNP

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You said you would immediately assume the person is on drugs.
I had a stepmother who was bipolar and schizophrenic and she used to throw away food because she thought the government was trying to poison us
No, that is what you said.

I said this would be the first question I would ask. Why go down the road of schizophrenia if it turns out the guy is a meth head. If they are not on drugs then you have eliminated that and can go down your checklist.

Begin with the easiest thing to diagnose and treat.
 

Dude653

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No, that is what you said.

I said this would be the first question I would ask. Why go down the road of schizophrenia if it turns out the guy is a meth head. If they are not on drugs then you have eliminated that and can go down your checklist.

Begin with the easiest thing to diagnose and treat.
You can usually tell if someone is tweaking. Usually they will have dilated pupils
 
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2,000 years ago when Paul and the Apostles began preaching End of the World there remained many unfulfilled Prophecies + the Prophecies related to the actual End of the World.

Today, those other Prophecies have been fulfilled. Only the End Time Prophecies remain.

If we add Matthew 24 to the big picture we see where the line exists between fulfilled Prophecies and remaining unfulfilled End Time Prophecies.

So, if we use the Bible as a barometer, we are definitely in the End Time and awaiting the final unfulfilled Prophecies to begin.

So more than any other time in history we are actually right there. We are the people the Bible speaks about living in the End Times.

People say to me I wish I lived in the Bible days. I tell them YOU ARE!!
 

Dude653

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2,000 years ago when Paul and the Apostles began preaching End of the World there remained many unfulfilled Prophecies + the Prophecies related to the actual End of the World.

Today, those other Prophecies have been fulfilled. Only the End Time Prophecies remain.

If we add Matthew 24 to the big picture we see where the line exists between fulfilled Prophecies and remaining unfulfilled End Time Prophecies.

So, if we use the Bible as a barometer, we are definitely in the End Time and awaiting the final unfulfilled Prophecies to begin.

So more than any other time in history we are actually right there. We are the people the Bible speaks about living in the End Times.

People say to me I wish I lived in the Bible days. I tell them YOU ARE!!
Live in a time period where people thought diseases were caused by demon possession and the average lifespan was 40? I'll pass
 
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Live in a time period where people thought diseases were caused by demon possession and the average lifespan was 40? I'll pass
The lifespan is skewed based upon how the Jews were dealt with by the Babylonians and Rome and we can toss Egypt in there and many others.

But if you think about it Hitler effected the lifespan by wiping out 7 million Jews.

So lifespan is a skewed factor here.
 

shittim

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Like I said, start with the easiest questions first.
We all got to where we could recognize the after effects on the various inmates. The paint sniffers had really dead looking eyes, on one we asked what his favorite paint was, that was the only time we saw a sparkle come back in his eyes as he said, "Glidden!".
 
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People have been expecting the end-times and the so-called "pre-trib rapture" since like ever. Don't leave your job or forget to save up for retirement etc saying you believe the apocalypse and rapture etc is going to happen in the next 2-3 years, as people have been saying for the last 50-100 years and more. The Gospel must be preached in every nation first, as per Mat 24:14, and that hasn't happened yet. Some 2 billion are yet to hear the Gospel. It follows the End is probably 10-15 years away at least (based on a reasonable assumption of how fast those people can be reached).

Matthew 24:

"14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come."

Much of China and India, to take just 2 countries, albeit with the largest populations, have vast multitudes of 100s of Millions of Souls without the Gospel. Therefore, we are not at the End yet. No one knows how much longer it will take, yet it's probable we will live to see at least 1 more decade imo.

I think instead of such things we should prepare for the Anniversary of Christ's Crucifixion in 2033 A.D.

"Imagine
... the greatest celebration in all of history: 2000 years since Christ's resurrection!
... the worldwide body of believers gathering in all regions of the Earth!
... the Church demonstrating tangible love and sincere unity to the world!
... the dawn of resurrection Sunday 2033, when light breaks forth a new day!"

https://www.jc2033.world/en/
 

ZNP

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There are terms that we have used to simplify what the Bible says, "7 year tribulation" is one, and "pre trib rapture" is another.

I don't like these terms because they can be misleading if you don't know where they come from.

"Pre wrath" rapture is definitely a Biblical saying, and then there is "10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth."

So being kept from the hour of trial is what they equate to "pre trib" but the Bible doesn't say that.

For all we know the tribulation is more than 7 years, what is 7 years is the 70th week in Daniel.

We do not know whether or not the Antichrist is revealed to the world at the start of the 70th week or if his confirming the covenant with the many is done behind closed doors. Now we can infer that the antichrist is revealed to the world after the rapture, but again the verses that you need to use involve a number of inferences.

But here is what may be a play on words and another inference. This term "the hour of trial to come on the whole world", we learn that in Revelation the judgement on the Great Babylon takes one hour. We also know that this judgement will be a trial to the whole earth as the merchants stand afar and bewail who will buy their stuff now indicating a global financial collapse as a result of the Great Babylon being judged.

So then the Bible does not say explicitly that the USA is the Great Babylon in Revelation 18 (I believe Revelation 17 is referring to the Vatican) but you can easily look at what is said in Jeremiah and Revelation about this and it can only be referring to the USA. So instead of "pre trib" rapture I think what the Bible does say clearly is there will be a "pre judgement of the USA rapture"
 

shittim

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directed at post #149

Thank you ZNP, this lines up with a word from a person I have found to be accurate of Netanyahu leading Israel at the time of the end, and we know from scripture we have been in the "last days" since Jesus paid the price for each of us. I just saw this about Alex Jones having infiltrated the Bohemian Grove long ago, it mentions that at one of the gathering the development of the A-bomb was pushed forward- IF, this is true, then it may have been of the adversary that splitting and releasing the power in the atom took place.
https://youtube.com/shorts/NTO82MhXrQM?feature=share
 

JohnDB

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What about the Euphrates River,
 

cv5

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People have been expecting the end-times and the so-called "pre-trib rapture" since like ever./
True. Including the Apostle Paul. Who thought that the Rapture would be happening in his day. The Thessalonians thought so too, in fact they concluded that they may have "missed" it.

So don't feel frustrated. It will happen. And soon. And right on time BTW.

Israel is in the land, and many of Daniel's prophetic boxes are being ticked off one after another. And Ezekiel 38 could only happen in this day and age.
 
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Animals are seen walking in circles around the world

Looks like this video shows this phenomenon occurring in at least two or more places. My MSN aggregator delivered only the sheep in China doing this. Many years ago, there was reported a phenomenon with cows reacting to potential seismic activity in Italy. It looked like one of the shots on this video could be Italy. Unfortunately, dates are not clearly indicated. Standard for introducing confounding info. But something to consider.
 
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I think it is good to do our daily duties, in our job, work etc, and also to take care of our spiritual lives, and Evangelize non-Christians in our free time, but over speculation on the end times is not great imo. I agree with Dr. William Craig on this:

Called, End Times Paralysis. He responds to an atheists criticism, but he also notes some interesting points:

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End-Times Paralysis
February 15, 2021

"KEVIN HARRIS: Bill, with the pandemic and a crazy election, I think that end times fever has been at a real fever pitch. I was reading an article the other day about how crazy society got and how crazy things got when we turned to the year 1,000. People thought that that millennia was the end of the world; that there was something significant about the year 1,000. And en masse people gave away all their money, they sold their goods. It ruined the economy of villages. And then – boom – the year 1,000 occurred and nothing happened. Kind of like Y2K if you remember.

DR. CRAIG: Yeah, I remember.

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KEVIN HARRIS: As we wrap this up today, is there room in all eschatological views for being positive and for keeping our hands to the plow and not becoming paralyzed or shut down like this guy says.

DR. CRAIG: Absolutely. Nobody can read the Sermon on the Mount and the ethics of Jesus and be lethargic about loving one's fellow man and being engaged. I love it when Jesus says to the disciples, Let us work while it is day, for night is coming when no man can work. (cf. John 9:4)That drives me and motivates me in my own work. I thank God every day for one more day of life during which I can serve him, and I seek to do so with all of the energy that he inspires within me because someday night is coming when no man can work. So while it is yet day let us work and strive to do the work of the Lord with all of the zeal and commitment that he inspires in us.[3]"

https://www.reasonablefaith.org/media/reasonable-faith-podcast/end-times-paralysis
 
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Looks like this video shows this phenomenon occurring in at least two or more places. My MSN aggregator delivered only the sheep in China doing this. Many years ago, there was reported a phenomenon with cows reacting to potential seismic activity in Italy. It looked like one of the shots on this video could be Italy. Unfortunately, dates are not clearly indicated. Standard for introducing confounding info. But something to consider.
yes, something to consider ill be watching,

Blessings,