covid -19 vaccine effectiveness according to W.H.O.

Most people on this forum are anti-x but the numbers don't support their arguments.
The majority of the world's population has had at least one dose so if the vaccine is as deadly as they claim, you would expect to see a lot more casualties
The odds of the vaccine killing you are actually astronomically low

Well....likely it wasn't actually the virus itself...it was the resulting damage of bodily systems the virus destroyed...

I've known several that have died or are severely disabled because of this virus...one of which is my father-in-law who is on permanent disability instead of going to work every day.

If the vaccine is so deadly why haven't I died or gotten covid? Been vaxxed 4 times now including the valent booster.

I've been exposed to covid too.

That's the truth.

So either you guys are wrong or I'm going to die.

Vaccine mandates have always been a thing for school.
If my child can't bring a peanut butter sandwich at school because someone not have a peanut allergy then why should your child be allowed to bring a preventable disease to school?

I had two friends that were vaxxed and boosted, both died of COVID.

I had two friends that were vaxxed and boosted, both died of COVID.

Most people on this forum are anti-x but the numbers don't support their arguments.
The majority of the world's population has had at least one dose so if the vaccine is as deadly as they claim, you would expect to see a lot more casualties
The odds of the vaccine killing you are actually astronomically low

The debate is over, the evidence is in.

You claim that what we are seeing with this astounding, apocalyptic spike in deaths among young 18-45 year olds is the result of having had Covid? If that is true we'll see these effects die out and by that I mean every year there will be fewer and fewer over the next decade.

The alternate claim is that the unprecedented "died suddenly" deaths as well as myocarditis and miscarriages and stunning drop in the birth rate is due to the vaccine. If that is true then we will see these numbers grow for at least the next few years and if they continue giving these booster shots each year these numbers will grow for the next decade.

Let each person be fully persuaded in their own mind. But know this, if you ignore the facts and the studies and the documentaries that have been released and continue to encourage others to get the vaccine, if it turns out that these documentaries are true you will bear some responsibility for those who get sick and die from the vaccine.

1.5 % of 300 million is 4.5 million with no mitigation and probably much higher if hospitals are overwhelmed.

If the virus affected children I wonder if people would be so blase?

Seems the old and medically compromised or fragile is an okay group to have die.

Not sure how you read that from my post. My meaning is this; You don't shut down a society to protect one group of people. I'm sorry, you don't. I would not ask America to shut down for me if everyone was carrying something that I was vulnerable to. How could I be so narcissistic? So, what would I do? Protect myself as much as I could.

As for the death totals, the CDC admitted that there were... some inaccuracies in their reporting. And, hospitals got money for patients who died from Covid, so some people who died with covid but not of covid were listed as covid deaths. We really do not know what the death totals are, but I'm willing to be they're lower than what has been reported.

Either way, it is dangerous to some, and those folks should take all the precautions they feel they need to. As for me, not buying that this is some sort of airborne AIDS, which has a 100% kill rate, which is what the news media and government were making it sound like. Oh, an executive from CNN, via our friends at Project Veritas, got caught on camera saying that CNN pushed the death total narrative deliberately to scare their viewers because... if it bleeds, it leads, and ratings jump.

Well I am not interested in media spin and the various biases.

There are many people who have heart problems, may be over weight, diabetes who still have jobs and are contributing members of society so if they are the more vulnerable, does the government allow them to stay home but who fills their jobs as paramedics, teachers, nurses, shift workers, various other service providers.

Tell me how does government respond? I am talking prior to vaccines before the less virulent strains.

There is a quick and easy way to develop herd immunity. This was not Ebola with a greater than 50% death rate. I am talking about something that has less than 1% death rate and primarily for people with comorbidities and the elderly.

So I am not suggesting that anyone who is high risk do this, but the idea behind herd immunity is that if 80% of the people are immune it makes it difficult for the virus to spread.

So we are really talking about young healthy people from 0 to 45. I was a teacher, you get the students to come to school but not enter the building, instead we walk around the track for about an hour and then go home and do that for the entire 400 students and 40 teachers. What this will do is expose you to the virus but in a very small dose and a weakened dose. As we know the sunlight destroys the virus in about fifteen minutes and the wind will disperse the virus so you will get exposed to a very small, weakened dose. Do this for one week and then resume normal activities the following monday. The kids can get credit for PE and you can count three of these days as "snow days". So you only miss two days of school, but 5 credits of PE equals one day, so you are only missing one day of school. Once school resumes you don't let anyone in the building with a fever. During the week off you sanitize the entire building.

This would work for cops, schools, colleges, the military, etc. Other businesses could have done the same thing. Costco could pay employees to come in for one hour and walk around the parking lot.

This is not some theoretical hokum. Remember all those rallies that were supposed to be "superspreader" events but weren't? They were outdoors. People were standing next to each other for hours. As a result they were all exposed but with a weakened dose and a very small dose. That is why those "red states" did so much better than the blue states.

The elderly and infirm could avoid crowded areas and do their shopping online.

However, you will still have people getting sick. For them they take HCQ the minute they feel like they are coming down with something. It works for any viral infection.

You also recommend that everyone take Quercetin, Zinc and Vitamin D to boost immune system response to a viral infection.

If despite all this they get sick enough to need a doctor you have Ivermectin.

The movie "Died Suddenly" is based on information that came out up to September 2022. You can be sure that although it has taken two months to produce this movie and release it that all the governments of the world are now aware of this. You can also be sure that embalmers around the world are watching this and sharing their own stories and advising their own governments on this.

Russia has claimed that they have evidence that the US developed the pandemic in bioweapons labs in Ukraine. They also claim they have the evidence.

I don't think the rest of the world will be too forgiving if they realize the pandemic and then the vaccine were designed to reduce the world's population.

The UN has divided the world into ten regions, so I wonder what the rulers of those ten regions will think about the US, the Great Babylon, who has deceived the whole world with the wine of her sorceries?

And the ten horns which thou sawest, and the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and shall burn her utterly with fire.

With what I have said above firmly in mind.....I know of lots of people who became antivaxxers for the Mrna vaccines and they have ALL paid a heavy price with Long Covid symptoms from their multiple infections.
Kidney damage, loss of cognitive function, liver damage, lung damage and general endocrine system damage which includes things like their immune systems becoming completely destroyed causing all sorts of auto-immune disorders.

So...alive but permanently disabled or getting vaccinated wasn't much of a choice. Believe rumor and innuendo from the internet or a 12 layer system of reporting where everyone gets rewarded for being a whistle-blower and yet the vaccine made it through successfully.

I believe in facts and Occam's razor...Not innuendo and scare tactics originated by nations still angry and upset about Tamiflu hoarding from 10 years ago and general politics.