Hell's Population Clock

Solomon wrote somewhat about the afterlife in the book of Ecclesiastes; but
he wrote from the perspective of a man "under the sun" whereas Jesus
spoke of the afterlife as a man from Heaven (John 3:13). In my book, Jesus
is the one to hear in matters related to the afterlife because he's actually
seen it for himself, and his information trumps Solomon's.

We also have the word of the prophets

There was a time in my past when I held your low opinion of Christ, until
one day somebody pointed out that God's son is preeminent, i.e. superior to
everyone that can be named; either in this life, the afterlife, in heaven, on
Earth, and even underground.

But okay, I get it. You've drawn a line in the dirt and committed to making
Solomon's views equal to, and/or superior to, Christ's; and there's no
turning back now: you've come to far. The die is cast and you're pretty
much stuck on board an express train that lets no one off till the end of line.
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But okay, I get it. You've drawn a line in the dirt and committed to making
Solomon's views equal to, and/or superior to, Christ's; and there's no
turning back now: you've come to far. The die is cast and you're pretty
much stuck on board an express train that lets no one off till the end of line.

No God is not a sadist but a righteous Judge. So when someone flatly denies the existence of eternal Hell -- the Lake of Fire -- that person flatly calls God a liar. You are now showing your true colors.

On that basis, you should not listen to yourself, either.
Since your stance is, man does not die, but exists forever after to
experience torment in the fiery depths of hell/the lake of fire.

Even though Scripture plainly states, God alone is immortal.

Christianity 101 = man puts on the immortality of Christ by grace alone through faith alone.

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting
and training in righteousness.

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Solomon wrote somewhat about the afterlife in the ; but
he wrote from the perspective of a man "under the sun" whereas Jesus
spoke of the afterlife as a man from Heaven (John 3:13). In my book, Jesus
is the one to hear in matters related to the afterlife because he's actually
seen it for himself, and his information trumps Solomon's.

• Matt 12:42 . .The queen of the south will be raised up in the judgment
with this generation and will condemn it; because she came from the ends of
the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, but, look! something more than
Solomon is here.

• John 3:31 . . The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is
from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The
one who comes from heaven is above all.

And Jesus comes highly recommended too.

• Matt 17:5 . . This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved; listen to
him.

So then, when encountering remarks in the book of Ecclesiastes that are out
of step with Jesus; my unsolicited spiritual counseling is to take Solomon's
world view with a grain of salt and go with the heavenly view taught by "my Son".

• John 8:12 . . I am the light of the world. He that follows me will by no means
walk in darkness, but will possess the light of life.
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On that basis, you should not listen to yourself, either.
Since your stance is, man does not die, but exists forever after to
experience torment in the fiery depths of hell/the lake of fire.

Even though Scripture plainly states, God alone is immortal.

Christianity 101 = man puts on the immortality of Christ by grace alone through faith alone.

They've been saying that from day one.

FAQ: How does Ecclesiastes measure up to 2Tim 3:16-17?

REPLY: Solomon's rather pessimistic world view should be mandatory
indoctrination for every young person coming of age to prepare them for the
unpleasant fact that life on Earth is essentially an exercise in futility.

Nobel Prize winner, author of several best-selling books, and recipient of at
least a dozen honorary degrees, physicist Steven Weinberg (who views
religion as an enemy of science), in his book "The First Three Minutes"
wrote:

"The more the universe seems comprehensible, the more it seems pointless.
But if there is no solace in the fruits of our research, there is at least some
consolation in the research itself . . . the effort to understand the universe is
one of the very few things that lifts human life a little above the level of a
farce and gives it some of the grace of tragedy."

What a dismal appraisal. In Mr. Weinberg's opinion, the human experience
scarce escapes the categories of farce and tragedy; its quest for knowledge
seems the only thing that gives humanity any justification to exist at all. The
universe? It's just a meaningless void decorated with fascinating objects --a
carnival side show of cosmic curiosities, so to speak.

Wouldn't it be sad if we only lived and died like insects and fungi? I mean,
what would be the point of it all? That's really no more significant an
existence than that of the individuals in a bee hive or a termite colony.

Solomon's sage advice for coping with life's futility is to take up a religion; in
particular a religion whose central figure is a supreme being who has some
thoughts about how His creations ought to be conducting their affairs.

That sometimes gives people's lives a purpose. Even the great self-help guru
Dale Carnegie suggested taking up a religion. In point of fact, folks without
religion-- e.g. secular humanists --typically live out their lives like beasts and
then terminate with no more meaning than road kill; and anon their biodegradable
corpse recycles back into nature like fertilizer.

"You only go around once,
So do it with all the gusto you can get!"
Schlitz Beer Slogan

Compare that to one of Solomon's remarks:

• Ecc 9:10 . . All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for
there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol, the place
to which you are going.

That's good advice for an atheist, but not especially good for young folks
coming of age; unless of course they decide to live without God.
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True Sister about God. At the Ressurrection as I outlined before, the unsaved are raised in eternal bodies, thus when put in the fire, they do not turn to ashes.

They've been saying that from day one.

Such malarkey.

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Such malarkey is right. His understanding is that of the new age mumbo jumbo that teaches life after death without the need of The Almighty Father. You will have life after death but it's at the hands and appointed time of God Most High. Who has a name. Almighty Father, God Most High, Lord of Hosts, supreme being are concepts. No the Father is not the atmosphere or something you can attach your fancy to. Well you can, but it doesnt make it so. Thats just their indoctrinated opinion, but lets be real. The physical was created like a reflection to the spiritual. My dad has a name as so does everyone elses. Dad is a concept, a title. There are billions of dads, there are also many Jahovahs. Jahovah means lord and is a concept or title. If you rent you pay $ to your land jahovah or landlord. All have individual names because they are separate individuals. My point in writing this is the person were in debate with who iis attempting to belittle us with a comment like "I used ti think that way" followed by some sort of insult. Which lets be real here. His " supreme being" which he has likened to" atmospheric" which can be anything which equals chaos due to the fact now anybody who subscribes to such doctrine puts their god in the position of "supreme being" and there you have a war of gods thru the mind of mislead people and who becomes the most popular wins weather it be by flattery or brute force. Both this world is filled of and I cant help but liken to what Hollywood has become, and its fake and disgusting when one really takes a look at it, especially from a sober perspective. It's what star wars is. So with that being said. The first commandment says " Though shall not have any Gods but the ONE TRUE GOD aka Heavenly Father, God almighty, Most High God is still a title and a concept. He is a individual and has a name. It is Eloah Prov 30:5 the term Eloah is singular and offers no pluarality whatsoever, as the term elheim is plaur and refers to the sons of God. Eloah/Heavenly Father created the eloheim. Joshua/Jesus was created by Father thats why he declares to be the son of God. Unfortunately in English we have only one term for God and has created a lot of confusion as to who is who, but the bible is clear as to who is who. So jesus being also god/eloheim (notice the lower case g) as you would when addressing any of the sons of God. When addressing the Most High, you use a upper case G no matter what. Messiah is a concept but the individual attached to that is Joshua/aka Jesus. You probably know this but im emphasizing it because it is a salvational issue. One will NOT be granted life eternal apart from this understanding. John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they may know thee the only true God, and Jesus the Christ, whom thou hast sent." This is first and foremost what has to be established. Thats why it is the very first commandment. Without that understanding we will be all over the pritlace and then anything goes like what this silly goose is trying to push on us. So with that being said, the devil, the beast, and false prophet does have individuals attached to them. The individuals will be given a chance to repent and be baptized and receive The Fathers/ Eloah's holy spirit. Its the concept of the devil/adversary, the beast/military power, and false prophet/liars will burn in eternal torment. Which in a nutshell everybody repents as those concepts become horrible to everyone and wont ever be repeated and the eternal torment is that all rejects that behavior and hates it (if i may use those words). The lake of fire is a another subject. When a eloheim/spirit is killed they create a heavy duty fire. Even things material that have a demon attached to it. When burnt be careful it creates a large flame. I say that because when a mason excommunicates himself from the order they burn a sash of some sort. And has been known to almost burn the house down when thrown into the fire place. Anyways at the time when 1000 years are up for the demons imprisoned in tataros. They get released f weror a short time, t he remainngtime they have to fulfill exactly 6000 years, but remember Matt24 the Father cuts time short. He gives them that time and Satan and the demons gather a army and surround Jerusalem.. Then Messiah and loyal hosts go out with the power of the Fathers spirit and they kill all the demons and from all those flames of dead spirits create a lake of fire as a memorial because of a rebellion against the Most High. Thats why the concept of devil, beast, false profit will join and burn in the lake of fire. Souls dont go there. The spirits that are killed will become human and along with everyone else who lived and died, including aborted babies, known as the second and final resurrection. It is the Fathers will that none should perish, but all come to repentance 2Peter 3:9and His will will be done on Earth as it is in heaven. The Almighty God is perfect with a perfect plan and He loses not one soul!
Lachiem!

About all of the English translations essentially claim Solomon's conclusion, after his musing about the vanity of life in this world, to be "Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man" but the JPS Tanakh 1917 renders his statement as, "The end of the matter, all having been heard: fear God, and keep His commandments; for this is the whole man," whereas "whole" offers a sense of the "complete" man. And it is peculiar that there is no Ecc 12:13 example citations included in the Brown-Driver-Briggs explanations of the word "commandment," not even if followed to the root, though it seems to me that it suggests a keeping of an "appointment."