Trump 24

soon he will say he never said that

if that were so, you would not be in this forum

that's about all we do here

they were pretty much a standard feature in the OT as well

as Solomon said. nothing new under the sun

Yes, people can say things by mistake, perhaps they can say things and not realize how they will be interpreted. So Matthew 18 says if we are offended tell the person your offense, if they refuse to listen to you as JTB has done with me, then take two or three others, if they still refuse to listen which JTB has in his responses to others, then tell it to the forum which is what I have done.

If this had been a mistake or a misunderstanding he would have cleared it up, but it isn't, he is intentionally slandering not just Trump but the 75 million people who voted for him. He is saying that Trump and his cronies are running an evil heretical cult. He has already said that people are worshipping him, etc. I have given him 2 admonishings, he has refused to listen to me, he has refused to listen to others, and his words are trying to divide this country in half and divide the body of believers in half. Therefore from this point on I will treat him as a publican, someone not with a Christian motive but with a political agenda.

There are several on here that say the same thing and others that make blanket statements that can't be backed up. These people are sent here to try and disrupt the forums and sway weak minds. I personally have no interest in arguing with them and prefer to shake the dust off my shoes and move on.

I certainly believe in doing so, but this is not a church and we don't answer to anyone except a mod if we cross the line

That being said, this is still supposed to be a gathering of believers, if on a forum, and there should be at least a prick of the conscience from time to time and not just a mentality that seems to suggest we are not accountable on this online platform.

I think you have expressed your concerns and I agree that claims should be substantiated especially when they are of the alarming nature that has been posted.

We each must answer for our words and probably long after we have said them, because they are not spoken into a void and there is that audience we are told is watching, so we forget the unseen world and the spirit realm but they operate whether or not we are aware and we do create an atmosphere and it can be felt even in this forum.

It really is a sad situation when we know others come here and read and you have to wonder the impressions we cause and that we are supposed to be a witness for the Lord we say we believe in. I use humor as a foil when an outrageous post is created at times or I ignore the ones who just want to argue and it didn't use to be that way. I would respond because of all of the above but again, this is a forum and just because we believe it to be Christian, that does not mean all who post here are such, even if they quote Bible verses from the beginning of the day to the end of the day.

But God knows those who are His and ultimately that is Who we answer to.

So maybe just let it go at this point. You can treat him as you wish but I doubt he cares.

Well I just read Handyman's post and he is saying what I posted. that might mean something. and what is that?

And I said not all here are Christians even if they quote scripture all day long. So, perhaps there is the answer right there. When someone just will not quit and says outrageous things (and oh boy have I experienced that lately around here in the last thread I created), they are not following the way of peace with all men to put it mildly

Interestingly, 2 of those people are now banned because they acted that way in every thread they appeared in.

But yes, people should not make false claims but they make false claims even about the Bible and interpret bizarre things.

It's like that and we can only conduct ourselves but I have no problem in calling out these things and in fact, we should do so and mark the response. And then for our own peace of mind if nothing else, pray and leave it alone.

over n out

I will add here, that you actually have not presented evidence of anything but your ability to create outrageous posts with no evidence that what you say is so.

I imagine you will continue to do so.

Lets see from what I know Satan does not ever go around saying Jesus Christ is lord.. believes in Him and only bows to Him. So.. yeah can't see the Antichrist doing that and the fact president Trump is married. Hes coming as someone with all the answers... wait for the WORLD. President Trump is about America first. Again the married part. Satan hates everything God has made and women? How was Christ born? Islam (Iran,Iraq, SA) should be a good example of that.

Trump may be "married" but he goes to prostitutes and boasts about grabbing women by the p_ssy!

If Trump is supposedly about America first, what did he discuss with Putin in private? There is no record of their private discussion. Even the translators' notes had to be destroyed!

And if he is so righteous, why did he steal classified information, then refuse to give it back, forcing the FBI to have to get a warrant and forcibly retrieve it from his residence?

Not everyone who says Lord Lord will be saved. That's what it means to be a false prophet.

Those who deceive the elect claim come in Jesus Name.

November should be interesting. What trump is going thru would politically kill anyone else (as in suffering a fatal blow?). If he rises from the ashes to win in November, that will say a lot.

Show of hands

Who hates Trump just because you hate him?

It's a democrat thing

You don't have to love him, you should probably pray for him, but you think the alternative is better?

Something like the above, is like the devil throwing your sin in your face every time you try to do something good. He did what he did so get over it.

Along that line of thought though, how about Biden's son? for that matter, how about Biden and all the women he has handled and his own daughter portraying her father as basically molesting her?

I won't give credit to any man who manages to pull this country out of the black hole it is disappearing into

If things actually get better, it will be because of God's mercy and the prayers of those who are faithful to Him

Spot on dude. Really. Only Trump is not and never said he was a prophet. Nor does he nor has he said he could, give great signs and wonders.

Actually the Bible does not say the elect are or will be deceived.

For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.
Matthew 24:24

Trump is not a false Christ and you are leading people astray when you say he said he was. He is certainly no prophet or he would have seen the fiasco voting fraud of the last election

You might be fitting into the category of false teacher yourself if you keep misquoting and twisting scripture that way tho

Okay, that's enough to put you on ignore. If you can't be rational why are you here?

How is that post irrational? There are many "never Trumpers". They have questioned many people who voted for Biden and they said they were "voting against Trump". When asking those who support Biden what it is they liked about him they had nothing to say.

I've seen other random interviews on the streets where they read quotes presumably by Trump and they all express their outrage only to later learn that those quotes were from Biden.

I've seen similar interviews where they compare Biden's accomplishments with Trump's. At first they switch the names and people are all in agreement with what they think is Biden and completely against what they think is Trump only to then learn that the names were switched.

Perhaps it doesn't apply to you, so tell us what it is that you like about Biden's accomplishments and explain how you deal with his more hideous quotes, actions and friends. You can start with his claim that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation when he knew full well it was true, also talk about his daughters claim that when she was 11 she took showers with him and she thinks that is what has messed her up for life, and then move on to the racists laws he passed, his friendship with KKK members, and the more racist things he has said.

You might as well put me on hide as I agree with Polar and both you and Jtb are trying to be deceivers but failing miserably at it. Most here are far more intelligent then the both of you put together and can smell the you both trying to shovel from a mile away.

The Bible says over and over again that God's people will be deceived and drawn away from His truth. I'm concerned for my brethren who will fall to such deception, and am just trying to illustrate ways it could happen. You however are calling your brethren steaming piles of cr@p.

I'm showing Christ's love for others, you've obviously turned away.

You are precisely who these scriptures are talking about.

Are both of you my brethren? I haven't seen any fruit of that. I have seen a lot of misinformation from you, jaybo and a couple others on here. I can't judge your salvation, but I can judge your honesty and if you truly are Christians then "You got some splainin to do!!".

The only one I have to 'splain to is God.

And I'm doing what He has laid on my heart to do.

Did God lay it on your heart to call your fellow believers a pile of crap?

I don't recall that being ANY fruit of the Spirit.

YOU are deceived my friend.

Really now.

Many years ago my wife and I went for cognitive testing. Multiple tests over several days including an IQ test.

I tested out at the 85% level. Meaning only 15% of people assimilate information better than I do.

So until you show me YOUR cognitive level, via actual testing, I would suggest you quit assuming things you don't know and lissen up.