Water baptism is necessary to be in the first resurrection

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Water baptism is necessary for the resurrection is written in plain English in Romans 6:5 and Paul teaches the same idea in 1 Corinthians 15, it’s also mentioned in 1 Peter 3:21. Just read my OP again it’s a bit more thorough as to why.

I know you don’t see that, but I see it and there are others who see it. From what I can see about your stated stances on scripture, you’re incapable of seeing it because your foundation about resurrections and water baptism isn’t accurate. In Christianity we can easily get blinded by our firmly held and sincere beliefs, but I don’t really have a preference what the Bible says or doesn’t say, I just seek the truth and have no loyalty to any doctrines.

Don’t take me saying you are incorrect as disrespectful or rude, because that’s just my opinion and I need to demonstrate I disagree with you in order to explain why my position is correct... which I have done repeatedly. None of this is personal to me.

The point that seemed to flare tensions between you and me was when you said “Jesus is the resurrection and the life and you are resurrected through faith.” However i rebuttalled with a counter argument that showed that passage didn’t actually guarantee a resurrection to the woman at the well for believing, but it promised her eternal life.

At minimum, I believe I effectively demonstrated your interpretation is not necessarily accurate but even possibly wrong.

I believe salvation of the soul is through faith and salvation of the body is through water baptism.

Not so that Jesus can go to heaven, but to signify that the Blood Covenant was fulfilled in His Death.

If by "blood covenant" you mean the Old covenant- yes. His perfect life and his death fulfilled the old covenant because he did the things that were in it. That's what opened the way into the most holy place, in order to present himself to the father and anoint the holy things in heaven with his blood- the blood of the new covenant.

I think I just figured out why the Jews don't understand why Jesus was a legitimate sacrifice... his obedience to the death was the living sacrifice that fulfilled the OT; his murder on the cross was not a literal human sacrifice to try and fulfill the OT. His blood is the blood of the new covenant. Epiphany!

Actually, the New Testament was written in plain common, Koine, Greek.

The thief NEVER died under OT - this is so WRONG to even say such a thing.

The theif on the cross next to the NEW TESTAMENT confessed to the NEW TESTAMENT and the NEW TESTAMENT said:
"this day you will be with ME...."

I am by no means an expert in Koine Greek but I do try to understand it as much as possible when I am studying the NT. Do you happen to be really good at Koine Greek, like enough to read, write, or speak fluently?

If not that's totally okay, it would be a rarity to find an actual Koine Greek expert here.

The temple or Judaism was in operation until the end of 'this` generation or about 70 ad

I'm confused...
If water baptism is necessary, then certainly Jesus would have made that point clear; He would not have left us with such a deadly argument.
So my question is, where and when did the Hebrew tradition of water baptism originate?
Did it eventually evolve into "Law" like everything else?
Did the baptism of Jesus simply fulfill prophecy and the "law"?

I'm confused...
If water baptism is necessary, then certainly Jesus would have made that point clear; He would not have left us with such a deadly argument.
So my question is, where and when did the Hebrew tradition of water baptism originate?
Did it eventually evolve into "Law" like everything else?
Did the baptism of Jesus simply fulfill prophecy and the "law"?

Water baptism is to fulfill Prophecy, as a Witness to the nation Israel as a Witness to us who believe of our New Identity.

Then the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and testing Him asked that He would show them a sign from heaven. He answered and said to them, “When it is evening you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red’; and in the morning, ‘It will be foul weather today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ Hypocrites! You know how to discern the face of the sky, but you cannot discern the signs of the times. A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.” And He left them and departed.
Matthew 16:1-4

I'm confused...
If water baptism is necessary, then certainly Jesus would have made that point clear; He would not have left us with such a deadly argument.
So my question is, where and when did the Hebrew tradition of water baptism originate?
Did it eventually evolve into "Law" like everything else?
Did the baptism of Jesus simply fulfill prophecy and the "law"?

The temple or Judaism was in operation until the end of 'this` generation or about 70 ad

This again omits context and other scriptures that prove upon entering into the gift of God's faith and Salvation we receive, are sealed, with the holy spirit. That is God and his promise.

A false gospel is not the gospel of Christ. You're wrong. Yet will not face that.
God's will is done on earth as it is in heaven .

Let me word it like this. Here’s my take on the sign of Jonah. The sign of Jonah was the literal burial of Jesus in the Earth for three days. It wasn’t about water baptism.

“Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born againb he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” 5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.c 7Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘Youd must be born again.’ 8The winde blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

Hmmmmm... How can we be certain that Jesus was talking about the "water of the womb" here? Is it simply a matter of context and translation?

Herod's Temple became obsolete long before 70AD. Rabbinical Judaism is still in operation today; it also became obsolete- the moment the new covenant began. "this" generation, this untoward generation, this brood of vipers, the seed of the devil- that's still around today.

The NT was in effect(began) the moment the LORD began His Ministry, when the Holy Spirit Rested and Remained on Him.

The NT was fulfilled (for forgiveness of sins) when HE Finished the Work of God and shed His Blood on the Cross.

The NT was completed when HE ascended to the Right Hand of the Father so that the Promise of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit be poured out upon His People = Blood Washed Saints Born of the Spirit.

The thief was saved by Faith(Gospel) in the Sacrifice of Messiah(Gospel).

When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, “Son, your sins are forgiven you.”

And some of the scribes were sitting there and reasoning in their hearts, “Why does this Man speak blasphemies like this? Who can forgive sins but God alone?”

But immediately, when Jesus perceived in His spirit that they reasoned thus within themselves, He said to them, “Why do you reason about these things in your hearts? Which is easier, to say to the paralytic, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Arise, take up your bed and walk’?
But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins”—He said to the paralytic, “I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house.” Immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went out in the presence of them all, so that all were amazed and glorified God, saying, “We never saw anything like this!”