Did Jesus died on Good Friday and rise Sunday, first day of the week?

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JeffA

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I forgot to mention that Jesus Christ is Lord of the Sabbath!
 

JeffA

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The biblical day went from sundown to sundown, 6pm - 6pm.

Leviticus 23:32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.

Genesis 1
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.


The bodies could not remain on the cross but had to be taken down by evening, 6pm, because that was the beginning of the high day sabbath.

John
31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
32 Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.
Seriously? are you kidding?
You need to start reading at Leviticus 23:27 where God begins to describe the Holy Day of atonement on the 10th day of the seventh month when they are to offer burnt offerings. This is a big deal and he proclaims a sabbath from the evening of the 9th day to the evening of the 10th (day of atonement).

This has nothing to do with when a day begins. Even the Passover is an evening event. There's nothing wrong with that.
God can have a feast or Sabbath whenever he wants. It doesn't change the weekly Sabbath. In fact, it distinguishes itself from it.
 

JeffA

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Can you post the scripture? Thanks.
At dawn, the beginning of Sunday, the first day of the week, he had Already arisen. That means he arose on Sabbath.
He is Lord of the Sabbath.
 

John146

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I forgot to mention that Jesus Christ is Lord of the Sabbath!
The lamb was sacrificed on the day of preparation, the day before the sabbath.
 

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At dawn, the beginning of Sunday, the first day of the week, he had Already arisen. That means he arose on Sabbath.
He is Lord of the Sabbath.
I don't think anyone knows the time of the resurrection.

The scripture records that Jesus was witnessed to have risen on the third day.
 
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So he rose on Saturday morning instead of Sunday? Then where was he the whole day from Saturday morning to Sunday morning - when the women arrived at the tomb? That timing is consistent in all four gospels.
 

John146

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Matt 28:1, Mk 16:2, Lk 24:1, Jn 20:1. Don’t give me speculations or theories, Jesus’s resurrection was based on eyewitness account.
Who saw his resurrection? Nobody. They saw him after he had already been resurrected.
 

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So he rose on Saturday morning instead of Sunday? Then where was he the whole day from Saturday morning to Sunday morning - when the women arrived at the tomb? That timing is consistent in all four gospels.
No, he rose on Saturday afternoon before 6pm which would be Sunday. When the women arrived, he was already resurrected.
 
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Who saw his resurrection? Nobody. They saw him after he had already been resurrected.
I already told you, Mary Magdalene was the first eyewitness, take it or leave it.

No, he rose on Saturday afternoon before 6pm which would be Sunday. When the women arrived, he was already resurrected.
Sorry man, there's no verse to validate that, unless you believe that "in the middle of the week" in Dan 9:27 applies on a Wednesday in a 7 day week. The stone was rolled away on Sunday by an angel (Matt. 28:2), until then, there was a guard stationed outside the tomb (Matt. 27:62-66), and nothing happened.
 

John146

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I already told you, Mary Magdalene was the first eyewitness, take it or leave it.



Sorry man, there's no verse to validate that, unless you believe that "in the middle of the week" in Dan 9:27 applies on a Wednesday in a 7 day week. The stone was rolled away on Sunday by an angel (Matt. 28:2), until then, there was a guard stationed outside the tomb (Matt. 27:62-66), and nothing happened.
She was the first eye witness that Jesus had been resurrected. She didn't actually see the resurrection because it had already taken place.

One Gospel account (Luke 23:56) tells of the spices and oils being bought before the sabbath and another (Mk. 16:1) after the sabbath. This apparent contradiction is explained by the fact that there were two Sabbaths that week – the special (Passover) sabbath when the Passover was eaten, and the weekly sabbath commencing 6.00pm on Friday.
 

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I don't think anyone knows the time of the resurrection.

The scripture records that Jesus was witnessed to have risen on the third day.
Agreed. And we also know that Jesus was in the heart of the earth three days and three nights.
 
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She was the first eye witness that Jesus had been resurrected. She didn't actually see the resurrection because it had already taken place.

One Gospel account (Luke 23:56) tells of the spices and oils being bought before the sabbath and another (Mk. 16:1) after the sabbath. This apparent contradiction is explained by the fact that there were two Sabbaths that week – the special (Passover) sabbath when the Passover was eaten, and the weekly sabbath commencing 6.00pm on Friday.
Even there were two sabbaths, it would be friday and saturday in order to make sunday the "third day". Remember that a biblical "day" is 12 hours from 6 am to 6 pm, not 24-hourday. And there was no contradiction between Luke 23:56 and Mark 16:1. In Luke 23:56 the women returned FROM THE TOMB and prepared spices and oils BEFORE THE SABBATH, in Mark 16:1 they brought those spices and oil to the tomb. These two verses are actually complementary. Also, in all four gospels Passover was the Preparation Day BEFORE THE SABBATH, that's not the special sabbath. They had this day to settle all businesses so they didn't have to be concerned about anything on Sabbath.
 

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Matt 28:1, Mk 16:2, Lk 24:1, Jn 20:1. Don’t give me speculations or theories, Jesus’s resurrection was based on eyewitness account.
None of these verses state that eye witness accounts of the resurrection. Nobody saw the actual resurrection. The women saw that the stone had been rolled away and no body was found.
 

John146

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Even there were two sabbaths, it would be friday and saturday in order to make sunday the "third day". Remember that a biblical "day" is 12 hours from 6 am to 6 pm, not 24-hourday. And there was no contradiction between Luke 23:56 and Mark 16:1. In Luke 23:56 the women returned FROM THE TOMB and prepared spices and oils BEFORE THE SABBATH, in Mark 16:1 they brought those spices and oil to the tomb. These two verses are actually complementary. Also, in all four gospels Passover was the Preparation Day BEFORE THE SABBATH, that's not the special sabbath. They had this day to settle all businesses so they didn't have to be concerned about anything on Sabbath.
A biblical 24 hour day is from 6pm to 6pm. A day and night make up the 24 hour day, 6pm - 6am being night, 6am - 6pm being the day. The two Sabbaths were not back to back. In one account, the women bought spices after the Sabbath (high day). In another account, the women bought spices before the Sabbath (weekly Sabbath).
 

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Even there were two sabbaths, it would be friday and saturday in order to make sunday the "third day". Remember that a biblical "day" is 12 hours from 6 am to 6 pm, not 24-hourday. And there was no contradiction between Luke 23:56 and Mark 16:1. In Luke 23:56 the women returned FROM THE TOMB and prepared spices and oils BEFORE THE SABBATH, in Mark 16:1 they brought those spices and oil to the tomb. These two verses are actually complementary. Also, in all four gospels Passover was the Preparation Day BEFORE THE SABBATH, that's not the special sabbath. They had this day to settle all businesses so they didn't have to be concerned about anything on Sabbath.
Why are you stuck on Sunday being the third day? Just curious...
 
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None of these verses state that eye witness accounts of the resurrection. Nobody saw the actual resurrection. The women saw that the stone had been rolled away and no body was found.
And somehow you know it better than eyewitnesses at the scene?

A biblical 24 hour day is from 6pm to 6pm. A day and night make up the 24 hour day, 6pm - 6am being night, 6am - 6pm being the day. The two Sabbaths were not back to back. In one account, the women bought spices after the Sabbath (high day). In another account, the women bought spices before the Sabbath (weekly Sabbath).
You're contradicting yourself, better find another term to define a calendar day. They bought spices on Sunday, the same spices which they bought BEFORE Sabbath. Nowhere does it suggest that two sabbaths were not back to back.

Why are you stuck on Sunday being the third day? Just curious...
Matthew 16:21From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again THE THIRD DAY.”
Matthew 17:23And they shall kill him, and THE THIRD DAY he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry.
Matthew 20:19And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and THE THIRD DAY he shall rise again.
Matthew 27:64Command therefore that the sepulcher be made sure until THE THIRD DAY, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.
Mark 9:31For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise THE THIRD DAY.”
Mark 10:34And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and THE THIRD DAY he shall rise again.
Luke 9:22Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised THE THIRD DAY.”
Luke 13:32And he said unto them, Go you, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and THE THIRD DAY I shall be perfected.
Luke 18:33And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and THE THIRD DAY he shall rise again.
Luke 24:7Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and THE THIRD DAY rise again.
Luke 24:21But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is THE THIRD DAY since these things were done.
Luke 24:46And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead THE THIRD DAY:”
John 2:1And THE THIRD DAY there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:
Acts 10:40Him God raised up THE THIRD DAY, and showed him openly;
1 Corinthians 15:4And that he was buried, and that he rose again THE THIRD DAY according to the scriptures: