when will the most evil doctrin in the world get banned on this site.
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A word of precaution for all Christians, you may not have noticed, but in two of my last posts, there has been immediate red X's, within minutes of me posting that post, now I would urge all Christians to not be disheartened by red X's, the reason being that quite often you receive a red X because the truth offends the devil, and when a person is puffed up with pride the devil has got a hold of them and the immediate response is a red X, so I urge you to encourage Christians to ask people who preach always saved over saved and ask them are you trying to gain favor
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If salvation can be lossed, it makes Christs work on the cross less than sufficient to cover all sins of those who believe in Him.
Therefore.. He is no longer God.
His diety is then attacked.
I think the impression most get is someone who isn't serious when believing in Christ and then claims they are saved when they are rebelling. They will claim OSAS. In reality they were ungenuine to begin with.. just getting a get out of jail free card.
That's people who didnt get saved. Those who do.. believed on Jesus Christ.. knowing He is God.. knowing the depth of grace given.
They wouldn't even be thinking about a get out of jail free card. 😀
Therefore.. He is no longer God.
His diety is then attacked.
I think the impression most get is someone who isn't serious when believing in Christ and then claims they are saved when they are rebelling. They will claim OSAS. In reality they were ungenuine to begin with.. just getting a get out of jail free card.
That's people who didnt get saved. Those who do.. believed on Jesus Christ.. knowing He is God.. knowing the depth of grace given.
They wouldn't even be thinking about a get out of jail free card. 😀
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One more precaution but only because Jesus loves precautions , amen , being saved is enough, there is however absolutely a need to teach how wonderful being saved, is but absolutely no need to take that gift for granted by preaching once saved always saved whilst puffed up with pride an a agenda, this spoils the gift of salvation,. So please note a lot of people need prayer because a lot of people are preaching once saved always saved whilst puffed up with pride of the wrong type.
So I would urge all Christians to remember that being saved is a once in a life time experience that happens once, and there is absolutely no need to preach over that
Once saved always saved sadly has become a spin for pride, because once saved always saved is the doctrin that is teaching works for favour more than works for salvation, because OSAS is always preaching what you must not do to gain salvation, which is works for salvation,. So please please please wake up Christians to the spin of the devil.
So I would urge all Christians to remember that being saved is a once in a life time experience that happens once, and there is absolutely no need to preach over that
Once saved always saved sadly has become a spin for pride, because once saved always saved is the doctrin that is teaching works for favour more than works for salvation, because OSAS is always preaching what you must not do to gain salvation, which is works for salvation,. So please please please wake up Christians to the spin of the devil.
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And it's their thread.
If this topic should be banned why would they start the topic now at 19 pages and that they think should be banned from being discussed?
If this topic should be banned why would they start the topic now at 19 pages and that they think should be banned from being discussed?
May God bless you and your family and friends.
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Why did Saul walk away?
Why did those who heard the "hard saying" "walk with Him no more"?
Why was the impossible debt of the Unmerciful Servant reinstated in full after it was completely forgiven?
Why did those who had escaped become entangled in the world again?
Why do washed sows and well fed dogs return to their former habits?
Concerning those who were "enlightened" and "made partakers of the Holy Spirit" which "God giveth to them that obey Him" (Acts 5:32 KJV) -- which proves these were SAINTS because the wicked can't obey squat (Romans 8:7 KJV) -- why did they wind up falling away into irreversible impenitence?
The answer is: selfishness. They ceased to put God first and put self first...works are just the evidence of who sits on the throne of the heart.
Why did those who heard the "hard saying" "walk with Him no more"?
Why was the impossible debt of the Unmerciful Servant reinstated in full after it was completely forgiven?
Why did those who had escaped become entangled in the world again?
Why do washed sows and well fed dogs return to their former habits?
Concerning those who were "enlightened" and "made partakers of the Holy Spirit" which "God giveth to them that obey Him" (Acts 5:32 KJV) -- which proves these were SAINTS because the wicked can't obey squat (Romans 8:7 KJV) -- why did they wind up falling away into irreversible impenitence?
The answer is: selfishness. They ceased to put God first and put self first...works are just the evidence of who sits on the throne of the heart.
Not sure what you're talking about.
Backstory:
Brother Posthuman claims wicked people like mass murderers, Satan worshipers, and homicidal rapists can partake of "agape" love of God.
He said that because the "many" of Matthew 24:12 KJV whose "agape" grows cold, leaving them unable to endure to the end and lost, can't be any other than SAINTS - and if these are allowed to remain SAINTS then OSAS dies a horrible, agonizing death right here...so, his solution is to argue these "many" are actually "the wicked".
What say you? Can the wicked partake of "agape"?
Backstory:
Brother Posthuman claims wicked people like mass murderers, Satan worshipers, and homicidal rapists can partake of "agape" love of God.
He said that because the "many" of Matthew 24:12 KJV whose "agape" grows cold, leaving them unable to endure to the end and lost, can't be any other than SAINTS - and if these are allowed to remain SAINTS then OSAS dies a horrible, agonizing death right here...so, his solution is to argue these "many" are actually "the wicked".
What say you? Can the wicked partake of "agape"?
If God hasn't robbed us of freewill, then yes, all is undone.
Ezekiel 18:24 KJV
But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
Ezekiel 18:24 KJV
But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
God created all things good. It is plain from God's word that Satan chose to rebel against God. That is the risk you take when you give a being free will. Satan made himself God's enemy and took a third of the angels along with him.
God gave Adam authority over every creature on the earth, and that includes Satan. Adam handed over his authority to Satan. Lord Jesus came as the Last Adam and took that authority back, and gave it to believers. God is holy and righteous. He does not go back on His word.
Now those who are born again have the right and responsibility of casting Satan down (Revelation 12). Jesus told us that the Kingdom of God is the place where demons are cast out. God permits evil spirit, yes. He's also given the Body of Christ the authority and power to deal with them. And that's the problem with delegated authority. If we do not exercise our authority, we are failing in kingdom work.
God gave Adam authority over every creature on the earth, and that includes Satan. Adam handed over his authority to Satan. Lord Jesus came as the Last Adam and took that authority back, and gave it to believers. God is holy and righteous. He does not go back on His word.
Now those who are born again have the right and responsibility of casting Satan down (Revelation 12). Jesus told us that the Kingdom of God is the place where demons are cast out. God permits evil spirit, yes. He's also given the Body of Christ the authority and power to deal with them. And that's the problem with delegated authority. If we do not exercise our authority, we are failing in kingdom work.