The lie that we are sinless if we are saved

There has pnly ever been one who was blamless and without sin and it is only by his blood we are made clean and by his grace we are spotless in his eyes, it is only by his blood and his grace we are made sinless it isn't about how little we sin or how much we practice not sinning it has nothing to do with our own effots it is by his blood and grace only taking it further than that is then making it about works. of course using it as an excuse to sin is then insulting his good will but anyone who is grateful for what he did for us would never do this a saved person is rescued from their past lives and their sinful ways and while they do stumble and some may even have certain thorns in their sides they are burdened to bear they are all the more grateful for his ever lasting grace.

The mindset of not sinning can be good but going to far can be poisonous I know from experience I went through a season where there was this certain sinI just couldn't stop doing I tried so hard to strive to be perfect but I just kept falling short I had been talking to a user on here who believed in perfection and though I knew better I listened to him and strived for it I ended up nearly destroying myself I felt diusgusting I felt ashamed to even speak to God I even feared I would go to hell I wasn't even that far gone just some slip ups here and there but because I just couldn't reach that point of sinlessness I felt dirty and disgusting

I wept at night fearing I would lose him because of my weakness I feared hell I would attack myself internally with insults feeling a filthy sinner like me deserved it saying things like how dare a disgusting sinner like me even dare ask for forgiveness how I should be ashamed for even thinking of doing sucha horrendous thing. Believe me the whole perfection thing is toxic you will fall short and the enemy will use it against you and even use people to do so, now I simply don't worry about such things I just love him enjoy being his child and when I fall short I know that I am forgiven move forwards and strive to do better next time I keep things simple and live in love that is all.

It isn't for you to say if he is a child of God or not, I will fully admit I still sin at times will you also say I am not his child? will you also call me a tare and judge me to be lost to my animal instincts?

Do you get this place is a test to see if you can overcome? It's called withdrawals ...man through it if you want pass this test.

i've been where you are for most of my life. You have to give the beast up. That is what this flesh is all about. You have to stop giving it what it wants ...fasting.

GOD doesn't want animal children.

Philippians 3:10 I want to know Christ and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship
of His sufferings, being conformed to Him in His death, 11 and so, somehow, to attain
to the resurrection from the dead.

12 Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect,
but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13 Brothers, I do not
consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind
and straining toward what is ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal to win the prize of God’s heavenly
calling in Christ Jesus.

You act like the original op of this thread is even trying. There is an end to sin ...Through CHRIST.

Daniel 9:24
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

And you just giving people excuses to sin. It doesn't say anything about repeated sins. You people are ridiculous if you think Biblical Saints were doing physical sins.

God wants me as I am more than once I have actually met him more than once I had the experience of his love pouring into my body it was only a drop yet it was so rich and deep it was to much for my body to handle. his love is beyond words beyond explanation it is to vast and beauttiful to explain yet without even speaking a word I could feel the depth of his love for me as if a million words at once how precious I was to him how beautiful I was to him how cherished I was to him how he longs to hold me in his arms

I may not be a perfect child of God in your eyes but I am in his my heart is branded with that experience that proves it.

How did you meet him? Sounds like a wonderful experience. Would love to hear more on that.

You are just a bad as a near death experiencer. They never realize there is Judgment Day ...hello???

Read through this and tell if you think you are still a Child of GOD.

1 John 3:4-10 ESV

4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.

5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.

6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.

7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.

8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.

9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.

10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.

Personally I believe that we can be "wholly sanctified" (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24) as a "second benefit" (2 Corinthians 1:15) in which the believer is "perfected for ever" (Hebrews 10:14 (kjv)) and therefore "cannot sin" because "His seed remaineth in him." and because "he is born of God." (1 John 3:9)

However, I also do not believe in this understanding that if I sin, there is no Advocate with the Father to make intercession for me (see 1 John 2:1).

We are justified by the blood of Jesus (Romans 5:9) but we are not born of blood (John 1:13).

If I am born of God, I will not commit sin from that time forward;

But if I am not born of God, that does not mean that I am not saved.

For I can be justified (by His blood) without being born again.

If I am justified through faith in the blood of Christ, I believe that this is a guarantee that I will either be wholly sanctified in this life (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 (kjv) or else that when I die I will receive a glorified body and that this will constitute being born of God at that time (whichever one it is).

A better way to put it is:

Is it possible to overcome the flesh and not give in to it's desires and be completely obedient to the Lord one's entire life?

Wrong.

Wrong.

PS ~ I am not responsible for your faulty assumptions, false accusations, and lack of understanding.

Doesn't the bible teach the opposite that it does?

Isaiah 59:2
But your iniquities have separated you from your God; And your sins have hidden His face from you, So that He will not hear.

Please don't bring this verse up around sinners. This is another verse i hear a lot as an excuse. It is for the Elect that accidentally sin ...didn't know it was a sin until after they did it. So, no, you can't do that sexual act or do that drug again.


Hebrews 10:26
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

This post is proof that you are a a liar and a sinner.
You said that you have not sinned in a year.

Why do the moderators of this sight allow people to continue to call God a liar by posting that they live without sin?

It's just sad how blind people are. The kneejerk reaction to hearing that someone doesn't sin is to lash out at it.