Money is Satan

Your view sounds like a cultish, socialistic twisting of Scripture, or maybe some offshoot of Buddhist teachings.

If you are correct, why didn't the Jews outlaw money in their society?

And please explain to me how humans are supposed to live without having any desires whatsoever? Normal human desires and instincts drive us to provide food for ourselves and our families, to seek mates, to put roofs over our heads.

If you are not an ascetic, living naked in the woods, then you cannot hold the view you promote without being a hypocrite. Since you have a computer, that you are a hypocrite is the only logical conclusion here. I really have nothing else to say to you on this subject.

When we are employed, we are coveting money they does not belong to us yet. Covet just means desiring something that does to belong to you. Technically just wanting a paycheck is a sin, but that's being strict about it.

So while there is some truth in what you're saying, it's not completely right, so it's wrong. If someone wants anything that belongs to someone else then that's coveting and the Bible says it's a sin.

That's incorrect. It's their money that they have already earned. The boss or accountant is just holding the money until it's payday. They are rightly coveting their own money. If they coveted money in the boss's bank account then that is different.

Desiring something that you have earned and worked for is not a sin. Coveting good things is always ok like in these verses:

1Co_12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

1Co_14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

No, that's not how it works. Employees don't earn anything until they work the agreed upon hours.

Don't get confused and trip over your own false logic here.

That's not the same as coveting the money that belongs to someone else. Those are gifts that initially belong to God and not our neighbour.

And each hour they have earned their hourly wage. It's their money right then but they have agreed that the business should hold their money until a certain day. People agree to that because it's much easier to save money you can't touch rather than to save it if you were paid daily.




Don't make this personal. I disagreed with you and explained why.

I'm just proving not all coveting is sinful as you have claimed.

Go take "your" money from your employer then. Let me know how that goes for you.

And I appologize, i did not intend to get personal. I see how what I said could have been taken that way.

You've proved nothing.

When you get it, when you see it, you know it like no other thing. Money, in all its forms, is Satan. Economics, all of it, is the religion of Satan; it is the theology of Satan.

Money must be brought down. Money must be defeated. The book of Revelation, at its core, is about the fight of Christ against the forces of money.

If you don't believe me, let your mind wander. Go all the way back into the far reaches of human history and consider how much misery money has brought the human race.

I don't know what to do about it. I have no solution to offer you. All I can do is type the final lines of Revelation:

He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

No, that's not how it works. Employees don't earn anything until they work the agreed upon hours. While they are working for the money it does not belong to them until they've completed their labor. What you're describing is called a cash advance (that's basically a loan - also coveting) and it isn't the same as wages earned in exchange for labor.

Don't get confused and trip over your own false logic here. Anything that does not belong to you, that you want, is called coveting and it's a sin.

@Runningman,

I think that your point of view is extreme.

How do you propose that believers put food on the table if they don't have jobs?

I can get where you are coming from I truly can and even see the logic you are using. However, I lean more on it is necessity born from lack. It is the state of a fallen world under a curse.

I believe first we have to identify what money really is and what it truly represents. It a medium of exchange that is widely accepted. It came to be because in a true trade and barter system what we have to trade can become valueless in the trade.

Such as we make shoes and we need nails. We go to the person who makes nails and he has no need for shoes because the ones we traded with him last month are still good. So we of course have the introduction of a system of currency where it would be gold or silver until the introduction of coined money.

So we have a universally accepted medium of exchange that can be traded with, that still carries the value of our labor or product. So while the individual we are trading with may not need our direct labor or product. He can take the medium of exchange that represents our labor or product of value and trade it for something he may need.

Money also represents our very life. All of us who have been born have been born into a fallen world. In this fallen world we are all born with the same tradeable value which is our very life. When we work a job we trade our very life for the medium of exchange. We do so by selling our life hour by hour for the medium of exchange.

So I find that ultimately in a fallen world where the curse of death resides. We ultimately have to trade our very life for what it takes to continue to live. We trade our life for the money it takes to buy food, the heat to keep us from freezing to death, and etc. We have to trade our life for necessity to live. So find this as part of the curse of death.

Of course the good news is for us is that this will not always be the case. As Christ has paid the price through his own life to redeem us. Also the bible serves up plenty of good instruction how we can trade our time for things of value that have a eternal value. Be it our very time we may spend sharing the Lord, communicating with our wife, doing something with our children and etc.

Or be it the money we have traded for our life. We can use that to do as the bible says, that a wise man lays up a inheritance for his children's children. As well as other Godly instruction how we can use money that represents our very life one hour at a time. How we can use it wisely so that it is far reaching, so that it still plays a role in the lives of others even after we are gone from here.

Let the readers decide:

1Co_12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

1Co_14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

Good coveting or sinful coveting?