Anxiety

So, I really wasn't going to lay all my personal laundry out, but maybe it will help someone else.

All through college and high school I struggled with pretty extreme and often crippling depression. There were periods where I really wasn't even functional as a human being. There were several facets to all of this, including a very long term food-borne bacterial infection that I didn't realize I had.

Another root cause was heavy metal poisoning, specifically copper and aluminum. I had something like 1500% normal levels of copper in my system, probably due to living in a house with all copper piping for most of my life. I was treated for high levels of copper in my early 20's, and then for high levels of aluminum in my late 20's. The aluminum most likely accumulated in my body through usage of antiperspirants, body sprays, and other cosmetics, though it is impossible to say for certain.

I was treated for the heavy metal poisoning by two different naturopathic practitioners. The first was only a naturopath, and the second was both a naturopath and a licensed MD. The main means of diagnosis that I remember was a hair analysis test, which shows what elements the body is excreting through the hair and whether the levels are normal or not.

Treatment of heavy metal toxicity was done (in my case) entirely naturally via a process call chelation. Basically you take materials orally that bind to the heavy metals and pull them out of body tissues and flush them out. In my case, I was adamant about wanting an all natural treatment without drugs and various herbs and supplements were used to flush the copper and aluminum out.

My treatement for copper poisoning especially had a dramatic effect. I was noticeably better within a couple months of chelating out the excess copper.

The down side to using a naturopath is that their treatments may or may not be covered by insurance, which can be expensive if insurance won't pay.

However, in my case my problem was diagnosed by establishment medicine as bipolar disorder, and the establishment treatment would have been putting me on drugs to manage my mood, instead of finding and treating the root cause of my issues (heavy metal poisoning).

Make sure your thyroid level is right, so many here where I live have thyroid problems. Looks like thyroid does pretty much everything.

And may I ask how you’ve managed it?

As an influential heretic eunuch from Rome told St Ambrose of Milan "stop, otherwise I'll kill you" - "only if God allows you, and even then (of the nuclear conflict) you will remain a eunuch, and I - bishop"

Fluoridated water has damaged the thyroids of much of this generation.

Can anxiety be treated naturally?

I have found Victory in Worship. Worship in your inner man and sing through the day focusing on the person, presence, and power of the Gospel of Christ.

Pray for wisdom and discernment. pay attention to when you are attacked. Where are you? Where have you been? Who have you been around? What have you been doing? Ask God to reveal to you if you are somehow making yourself vulnerable to this.

Hello again messenger, I am interested in getting more of your opinion on the spiritual interactions with the physical. This subject seems to be little discussed on this chat but seems to run deep. It was an interaction of this type that got me to come to accept Jesus. My experience was totally dismissed by me at the time it occurred but was significant to me 50 years later. Around 2017


I saw a post you made about a pair of elephant reproductions that you got rid of. Do you recall how you came by those reproductions, and do you think it would matter as to what the reason for having some objects and the influence those objects might have? Say for example a person buys a ouija board for a laugh as compared with someone hoping to 'divine' spirits. Plus the person involved having some kind of acceptance of the spirit world seems would factor in some how.

Even Hollywood gets some of that right. Thinking 'Field of Dreams' maybe. "Build it and they will come".

Or 'Star Wars", 'Go with the force'. I think that is the "Star Wars" phrase or similar that the movie engendered.

Plus, many other Hollywood productions. And we could say that there really is no good thing that comes out of Hollywood. I used to go on service calls for home entertainment equipment in Hollywood and didn't find that it was much different than Pasadena where the shop was, and I lived at the time. Pasadena had some strange things too. At breakfast a woman next to me claimed she had just come from Venus to attend a convention at the civic center.

How are we supposed to discern an actual 'demonic' spirit from people with 'delusions'? I was very taken with reading true crime for a while and the book 'Whoever Fights Monsters' by Robert Ressler mentioned a guy in prison who killed his neighbor because the neighbor was aiming his tv antenna at him and giving him gas. I did meet a woman who told me that people were aiming their antennas at her but not giving her gas but some other thing, maybe just annoying her. I see a 'Dragnet' show with something similar.

Some of these things I attribute to toxins in a person's system. Maybe in some cases heavy metal poisoning. Certain genetic disorders also seem to affect mental processes. I analogize this with a little pebble in my shoe while walking can be terribly aggravating and if I don't take it out and continue walking, I deserve to be aggravated by it. But that pebble does affect my mental state.

Satan does not need come into the picture it seems. But I read some of Wendell Berry writing of Kentucky beauty and compare city living and there is a big difference. If you aren't familiar with Wendell Berry's writings, he is very much the environmentalist but not necessarily Christian. I hope we can discuss some of these things if anything I post makes any sense to you. These are a few of the things I puzzle about. Also seems that the Bible says Satan is now roaming about like a roaring lion. Found it>>>>>>
1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Much like the angel on one shoulder and the devil on the other

enemy of our souls may take occasion by our weakness to gain an advantage

certain items have been dedicated to an entity or spiritual purpose

Hope this makes where I am coming from a little clearer.

So, I really wasn't going to lay all my personal laundry out, but maybe it will help someone else.

All through college and high school I struggled with pretty extreme and often crippling depression. There were periods where I really wasn't even functional as a human being. There were several facets to all of this, including a very long term food-borne bacterial infection that I didn't realize I had.

Another root cause was heavy metal poisoning, specifically copper and aluminum. I had something like 1500% normal levels of copper in my system, probably due to living in a house with all copper piping for most of my life. I was treated for high levels of copper in my early 20's, and then for high levels of aluminum in my late 20's. The aluminum most likely accumulated in my body through usage of antiperspirants, body sprays, and other cosmetics, though it is impossible to say for certain.

I was treated for the heavy metal poisoning by two different naturopathic practitioners. The first was only a naturopath, and the second was both a naturopath and a licensed MD. The main means of diagnosis that I remember was a hair analysis test, which shows what elements the body is excreting through the hair and whether the levels are normal or not.

Treatment of heavy metal toxicity was done (in my case) entirely naturally via a process call chelation. Basically you take materials orally that bind to the heavy metals and pull them out of body tissues and flush them out. In my case, I was adamant about wanting an all natural treatment without drugs and various herbs and supplements were used to flush the copper and aluminum out.

My treatement for copper poisoning especially had a dramatic effect. I was noticeably better within a couple months of chelating out the excess copper.

The down side to using a naturopath is that their treatments may or may not be covered by insurance, which can be expensive if insurance won't pay.

However, in my case my problem was diagnosed by establishment medicine as bipolar disorder, and the establishment treatment would have been putting me on drugs to manage my mood, instead of finding and treating the root cause of my issues (heavy metal poisoning).

Fluoride from water and pesticides accumulate in the pineal gland more than in any other part of the body. After accumulation they form crystals, creating a hard shell called calcification. ‌The pineal gland is not the only part of the body that can become calcified.

As of 2012, 25 countries have artificial water fluoridation to varying degrees. 11 of them have more than 50% of their population drinking fluoridated water. A further 28 countries have water that is naturally fluoridated, though in many of them the fluoride is above the recommended safe level. As of 2012, about 435 million people worldwide (around 5.4% of the global population) received water fluoridated at the recommended level, nearly half of them living in the United States.

Fluoride is not an essential nutrient, and no disease has ever been linked to a fluoride deficiency. As a cumulative poison (accumulating in bones, the pineal gland, and other tissues), and biologically very active even at low concentrations, fluoride interferes with hydrogen bonding and inhibits numerous enzymes, leading to reduced melatonin production and an earlier onset of puberty, and renal damage in children. Fluoride has been shown to cause chromosome damage, and interference with the enzymes involved with DNA repair in a variety of cell and tissue studies carried out in animals. Once fluoride is put in the water, it is impossible to control the dose each individual receives. source

Hey Messenger, no problem getting your end but since I have a kind of screwy background my end is difficult for me to figure out. I think the 28th chapter of Isaiah is meant for me about line upon line and precept upon precept and then falling backward and having to learn all over again like where Paul refers to this too but not sure where. It's like I read the Bible and it seems clear and then poof gone.
I am reminded of James 1:22-25. Not sure if this is what you are talking about...

I know we have to grow to understand how to Walk with GOD. I had many times of real indecision in my early walk, But the LORD brought me through. I am learning to Let the peace of GOD rule in my heart.
It's not superstitious, it is a living relationship of dependency. The promise is when we come into this covenant relationship that we will hear a voice behind us saying this is the way, walk in it. I do not always hear His voice speaking, but always a sense of His abiding peace to walk in faith. If I think to go to the left and have no peace I stop, because I don't have the Faith to go that way. Hope that is clear.

I read your testimony about your dream and thought of how it could possibly be interpreted. The road was not the literal road, but a spiritual road. Given the days we are in, if you are faithful to the end there is a likelihood of any of us losing our head for the testimony of Jesus Christ. I am not an interpreter, but I have had a few dreams that have come to pass and afterward the LORD revealed how what I dreamt was spiritual. I do not believe that ever dream is spiritual, but there is often something about those that are.