Which Jesus are you trusting ?

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KelbyofGod

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But you said you believe the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are God...so which one is God at the present time?
The bible describes all of that without using the word "Trinity". @Hann57 is just saying that If the bible doesn't need to apply a word 'trinity' then neither does he or she.

I don't know of any biblical commandment along the lines of "Thou shalt say 'Trinity'". Do you?

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 

Hann57

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#42
The bible describes all of that without using the word "Trinity". @Hann57 is just saying that If the bible doesn't need to apply a word 'trinity' then neither does he or she.

I don't know of any biblical commandment along the lines of "Thou shalt say 'Trinity'". Do you?

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
Yes I do.
2Ti_1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
And.
2Ti_2:7 Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.

WE dare not use doctrines of men the same ways as Paul warns of those who preach another gospel of another Jesus.
But you said you believe the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are God...so which one is God at the present time?
Jesus Christ is God. The Father is God. The Spirit of Christ is God.
 

KelbyofGod

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Yes I do.
2Ti_1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
And.
2Ti_2:7 Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.

WE dare not use doctrines of men the same ways as Paul warns of those who preach another gospel of another Jesus.

Jesus Christ is God. The Father is God. The Spirit of Christ is God.
Maybe I didn't understand what you were saying. *shrugs*
Still like your spunkiness. :) Fare well.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 
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#44
1Co_8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
What does the word of God say ? One God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ. It dont say Trinity.
That isn’t a standalone verse to define who God is. How about 1 John 5:7?

7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

It doesn’t need to say the word “trinity” I might add, since you seem to have issue with that word being absent. Trinity just means the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One. So it’s scriptural.
 

BonnieClaire

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Jesus Christ is God. The Father is God. The Spirit of Christ is God.
You have said you believe in God, but your profile says you are not Christian...don't you think you should change your spiritual status?

...and again, which one of the three, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, is God at the present time according to you?
 

BonnieClaire

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#46
The bible describes all of that without using the word "Trinity". @Hann57 is just saying that If the bible doesn't need to apply a word 'trinity' then neither does he or she.

I don't know of any biblical commandment along the lines of "Thou shalt say 'Trinity'". Do you?

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

That's right, the word "trinity" is simply a theological term describing God in three persons
 

Blik

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I read the KJV only.
By that we can know the limits of your understanding of scripture. By reading history we can know how man interpreter scripture over 300 years ago. At that time it was considered perfectly OK by many to murder Jews because they were Jewish.

I have news for you---original documents have been found in these 300 years you are ignoring.
 
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I won’t say that I am a Christian. Anyone can say that, in fact I despise the word Christian because it’s meaning has no value anymore.

If anyone can see Christ in me, then I must be following the right Jesus. If any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His. 😊
 
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I'm beginning to wonder which Jesus you are trusting since you won't answer my simple question, so here it is again...

"...you don't believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are God?"
Let me answer if you don’t mind.

Every person has their way of seeing the Godhead, but I liken the Godhead in His creation.

God created the man first in His image and likeness.

Then God created from the man a woman, in the likeness of man which is the likeness of God.

The man and the woman when they come together in unity are ONE FLESH. Two people, but one.

The man represents God the Father, the woman represents the Son of God or that which is in the bosom of the Father.

This is just an image, if you can see it, it’s wonderful.

I and my Father are ONE SPIRIT.

Jesus says, I must go, for If I don’t go the comforter which is the Holy Ghost will not come.

The fleshy testimony (the Jesus they saw) had to leave so that the Father and the Son could come as the Holy Spirit or the ONE SPIRIT at the preaching of Peter on the day of Pentecost.

There is not three persons in the Godhead, it’s always been the Father and the Son. The Holy Spirit is that unity.

There is more to see in His creation but I will let this alone as I know from times past that such information can cause a lot of strife.
 

BonnieClaire

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I won’t say that I am a Christian. Anyone can say that, in fact I despise the word Christian because it’s meaning has no value anymore.

If anyone can see Christ in me, then I must be following the right Jesus. If any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His. 😊
You don't call yourself a Christian, but true believers are called Christians in the bible...


Acts 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. ~KJV

Acts 26:28
Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian. ~KJV

1 Peter 4:16
Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. ~KJV
 

BonnieClaire

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Let me answer if you don’t mind.

Every person has their way of seeing the Godhead, but I liken the Godhead in His creation.

God created the man first in His image and likeness.

Then God created from the man a woman, in the likeness of man which is the likeness of God.

The man and the woman when they come together in unity are ONE FLESH. Two people, but one.

The man represents God the Father, the woman represents the Son of God or that which is in the bosom of the Father.

This is just an image, if you can see it, it’s wonderful.

I and my Father are ONE SPIRIT.

Jesus says, I must go, for If I don’t go the comforter which is the Holy Ghost will not come.

The fleshy testimony (the Jesus they saw) had to leave so that the Father and the Son could come as the Holy Spirit or the ONE SPIRIT at the preaching of Peter on the day of Pentecost.

There is not three persons in the Godhead, it’s always been the Father and the Son. The Holy Spirit is that unity.

There is more to see in His creation but I will let this alone as I know from times past that such information can cause a lot of strife.
I can understand why you don't want to be called a Christian...you're a Modalist. Right?
 
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I can understand why you don't want to be called a Christian...you're a Modalist. Right?
The word Christian can be applied to those who are killing other people. It’s just a name. There are millions of people from all so called Christian denominations and none of them are truly born again. Yet, they identify themselves as “christian”. Anyone can take the name and have not the Spirit of Christ.

I liked what one JW said when he came to my door to talk about his religion. I said, “I am born again”. He said, as he turn around and left my porch, “Oh, you are one of them”.

I wish to be called, “I am one of them”.
 

Nehemiah6

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"The second person of the triune Godhead" is NOT in the scriptures.
First you said "Jesus Christ is God" and now you've turned around and said that that is not in Scripture. Sounds like schizophrenia.
 

justbyfaith

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I am trusting in Jesus of Nazareth who is the Christ.

What about you, @Hann57?
 

justbyfaith

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#57
To this I might add that another group teaches the Bible isn't even necessary today because we have new apostles and new prophets to give us God's word.
I don't think that the NAR denies the reality that the Bible is the word of God.

I think that these "apostles and prophets" take their doctrine from the Bible.
 

BonnieClaire

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The word Christian can be applied to those who are killing other people. It’s just a name. There are millions of people from all so called Christian denominations and none of them are truly born again. Yet, they identify themselves as “christian”. Anyone can take the name and have not the Spirit of Christ.

I liked what one JW said when he came to my door to talk about his religion. I said, “I am born again”. He said, as he turn around and left my porch, “Oh, you are one of them”.

I wish to be called, “I am one of them”.

Any group can be labeled as "those who are killing other people," yet you single out Christians as though you hate them.
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