The teaching of Paul and Christ is different.
- Thread starter Blik
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
It is YOU who have no idea what Paul is saying.
You think Paul in Romans 3:31 is contradicting Paul in Galatians????
That SHOWS you have no idea what Romans 3:31 says.
And that shows your complete FAIL at understanding Paul.
AND the Law.
I've shown you the relationship that Christians have to the Law with SCRIPTURE.
Galatians 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
Galatians 3:24-25
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
I'm not the one who condemns. Its the law that condemns.
Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
You think Paul in Romans 3:31 is contradicting Paul in Galatians????
That SHOWS you have no idea what Romans 3:31 says.
And that shows your complete FAIL at understanding Paul.
AND the Law.
I've shown you the relationship that Christians have to the Law with SCRIPTURE.
Galatians 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
Galatians 3:24-25
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
I'm not the one who condemns. Its the law that condemns.
Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
And again I say you don't understand it! A legalist (it appears to be one of your casting stones) is someone who tries to keep the Law of their own ability.
The establishment of the Law in Christ, and I speak as Paul did of the moral Law, the 10 commandments, is not kept by ones own ability but by faith that the commandments will be fulfilled in us by Christ.
The Law itself is not to be condemned as you often do, the trying to keep it of our own ability is to be condemned.
The Law itself is good and holy as Paul said! Rom. 7:12.
The establishment of the Law in Christ, and I speak as Paul did of the moral Law, the 10 commandments, is not kept by ones own ability but by faith that the commandments will be fulfilled in us by Christ.
The Law itself is not to be condemned as you often do, the trying to keep it of our own ability is to be condemned.
The Law itself is good and holy as Paul said! Rom. 7:12.
-
1
- Show all
You speak as Paul did...
Show somewhere in scripture where Paul calls the Ministry of Death and Condemnation the "moral" law.
A legalist is someone who compares themselves to the law. Who calls it the "moral" law. Who claims obedience to the law. Who claims the law is our "moral" guide.
You can try to hide behind your Christianese. But your own words will find you out. And if the term "legalist" fits why not wear it proudly? Why try to hide from it? I wouldn't, if I were a legalist. I would be truthful.
Show somewhere in scripture where Paul calls the Ministry of Death and Condemnation the "moral" law.
A legalist is someone who compares themselves to the law. Who calls it the "moral" law. Who claims obedience to the law. Who claims the law is our "moral" guide.
You can try to hide behind your Christianese. But your own words will find you out. And if the term "legalist" fits why not wear it proudly? Why try to hide from it? I wouldn't, if I were a legalist. I would be truthful.
You speak as Paul did...
Show somewhere in scripture where Paul calls the Ministry of Death and Condemnation the "moral" law.
A legalist is someone who compares themselves to the law. Who calls it the "moral" law. Who claims obedience to the law. Who claims the law is our "moral" guide.
You can try to hide behind your Christianese. But your own words will find you out. And if the term "legalist" fits why not wear it proudly? Why try to hide from it? I wouldn't, if I were a legalist. I would be truthful.
Show somewhere in scripture where Paul calls the Ministry of Death and Condemnation the "moral" law.
A legalist is someone who compares themselves to the law. Who calls it the "moral" law. Who claims obedience to the law. Who claims the law is our "moral" guide.
You can try to hide behind your Christianese. But your own words will find you out. And if the term "legalist" fits why not wear it proudly? Why try to hide from it? I wouldn't, if I were a legalist. I would be truthful.
I've already shown you the truth of Law as Paul gave it, but some are determined to overlook it!
But life goes on, Grandpa!
That can be compared to saying the whole reason the constitution of the US was introduced was-----then give something like the only reason for the Constitution was that there are criminals in the world.
To be a citizen of a nation in the world you are to study its constitution, to be a citizen of the kingdom Christ tells us of, you must study its laws.
To be a citizen of a nation in the world you are to study its constitution, to be a citizen of the kingdom Christ tells us of, you must study its laws.
Romans 13:1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities.
Well, the constitution of the US gives the reason in its preamble.
We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Everyone who rejects Gods Grace gets the Law instead. Still, to this day.
Once people receive Gods Grace they are delivered from that Law of sin and death. And they can see the error of the ancient Hebrews.
We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Everyone who rejects Gods Grace gets the Law instead. Still, to this day.
Once people receive Gods Grace they are delivered from that Law of sin and death. And they can see the error of the ancient Hebrews.
-
2
- Show all
No. I made a simple, direct statement.
No mention of salvation, justification, or "guide". Nor did I mention "instead".
I said once people receive Gods Grace they are delivered from that Law of sin and death.
Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Rest from what?
Galatians 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
Another simple, and direct statement. Pretty self-explanitory.
Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
For people who are "using" the law as a "guide".
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Further instruction to NOT use the law as a "guide".
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Isn't it great?
No mention of salvation, justification, or "guide". Nor did I mention "instead".
I said once people receive Gods Grace they are delivered from that Law of sin and death.
Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Rest from what?
Galatians 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
Another simple, and direct statement. Pretty self-explanitory.
Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
For people who are "using" the law as a "guide".
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Further instruction to NOT use the law as a "guide".
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Isn't it great?
-
4
-
1
- Show all