Jesus Came To Fulfill Not To Destroy

Right...

How many times have I explained it to you?

That's not the only place Paul explains this idea to you.

Galatians 3:2-3
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

(Or "Do you still think the law can give you righteousness???)

2 Corinthians 3:5-6
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Galatians 3:21-22
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.



You can't take 1 scripture and try to twist it to mean the opposite of what Paul was trying to convey. He says the same things in different ways in different epistles.


Apparently you didn't understand any of them. Or you have Paul arguing with his own self.

If you knew you were justified by Christ then there would be no need for you to go back to the 10 commandments.

And you STILL conflate the Law of Liberty with the 10 commandments. You are so wrong.

YOU have James contradicting Paul. You know you MUST be in error, right?

You have James saying continue in the Law vs Paul saying don't go back to the Law.

You REALLY think the apostles contradict each other? REALLY?

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.



Our wisdom??? Call back when you find some.

Men who do not surrender their vices to the Lord may find themselves judged as workers / doers of iniquity on that day (Matthew 7:23, Matthew 25:41; Matthew 13:41-42).

I don't know of anyone who obeys the Law of Moses, especially the Law preachers!

I know some very sinful people who obey Jesus more than "Christians".

uh huh....

Paul PLAINLY is not saying that we gain righteousness by the Law.

That's funny how you twist scripture thinking you understand but try to make it say the opposite of what it is actually conveying.

Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

See? its all part of this thought. The Law CAN'T give you righteousness.

The Law preachers love to preach it. But they don't keep it! Utter hypocrisy!

The letter of the law cannot be kept (Galatians 6:13).

The spirit of what is written (Exodus 34:27) is a different story (Romans 7:6).

If we walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4).

That means that we don't only keep it outwardly; we keep it inwardly.

The question that needs to be asked, I think, is, what has the Lord set us free from, in Galatians 5:1?

Has He set us free from sin, or from righteousness?

The fact of the matter is, I am obedient to the ten commandments because the love of the Lord has been shed abroad in my heart (Romans 5:5); whether I look to them or not (Romans 13:8-10, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6).

However, I think that a little tidbit of wisdom given unto us by Solomon is pertinent here.

If anyone turns his ear away from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be an abomination (Proverbs 28:9).

Grandpa, you have not understood anything I have said! You assume you have and label me a keeper of the Law.

But that's OK, it really doesn't matter to me what you think! Once again,

Paul told us the Law is holy and good! He told us the Law is not made void through faith, we establish the Law!

He told us that because the "flesh is weak" man can't keep this "holy and good" Law.

So Jesus came to keep the Law for us, He became the second Adam, undoing what Adam had done by sinning.

What you will not accept it that there is righteousness in the Law, BUT man cannot receive that righteousness from God by keeping the Law himself. Are you reading this? Do you understand this?

Perfect obedience had to be rendered by man to obtain this righteousness, again, fallen man cannot deep this Law and obtain the righteousness!

But, by the fact that Christ did keep the Law perfectly and defeated the of sin and death, through faith in Him, the Law is fulfilled in us through our sanctification process by the Holy Spirit. This is how the Law is fulfilled in us.

It is all based on faith in the One who kept the Law perfectly, without faith in Him the Law cannot be fulfilled in us.

But still, fallen man that believes in Christ, and the Law is being fulfilled in him by faith, cannot keep the Law! We will fail in areas as man is not yet perfect.

This means that man still cannot achieve the righteousness in the Law, the righteousness he has received for justification came from God as a free gift for believing in His Son.

That would make Paul a liar in Rom. 8:3-4!

Of course you will never accept that Paul said it, even though its plain as day!

But I do agree the Law brings forth death but only because man can't keep it.

how do you see Paul being made a liar here if a person states the law is not given for righteousness/salvation?

perhaps you do not understand what Paul is saying even though you are quoting it?

8 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. 3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. Romans 8

there is no condemnation to those in Christ BECAUSE He kept the requirements of the law BECAUSE He never sinned

the law given to Israel was never meant to save anyone. it set up sin as the impediment between mankind and God who is holy

read v.3...GOD has created our way of salvation and not by the law which puts a magnifying glass on what? FLESH

flesh cannot keep the law and therefore is condemned by the law

SO God sent His own Son in the likeness of this sinful flesh so that sin was condemned in flesh BUT Jesus never sinned, SO the requirements of the law were FULFILLED

we are now walking after the Holy Spirit, not bound to keep the law and fulfill its requirements for sin

the law has not changed and God has not changed, so what has changed then?

our ability to go before our Creator without condemnation, not because of the law which was NEVER meant to save anyone, but because of God's plan for his wilful children through His Son in whom we are made whole, sinless before God and forgiven of our sins

WHY? because the life is in the blood as God declared in the OT....not the blood of animals with no moral compass or laws to obey, but through the blood of Christ

we are told often, NT, that it is through the blood of Christ that we are perfected (in Christ) and no longer condemned

this is all in scripture

I don't believe in luck, but good luck if you think the law declares righteousness to anyone

Its pretty easy to see what the error of people who attempt to place Christians under Law is.

Although, apparently, they can't see it themselves due to their ignorance of what scripture is ACTUALLY saying. I would call it a willful, purposeful ignorance. Even presented with Truth they reject it. Even presented with the logic of scripture they reject that too.

In (Matthew 5:17), Jesus made the statement Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. He came not to destroy the law, or the prophets, but to fulfill. Based on that statement many ministers have taught their congregation that the arrival of Jesus did away with the Old Testament along with its laws, statutes and Judgements. They even make the statement, to their congregation, that they are no longer under the Old Testament, but now operate under the New. So you have people believing that the Old Testament is no longer relevant today. One needs only to further examine the scriptures to find out, how incorrect that position is.

In (Matthew 5:18), Jesus Himself states For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Now you will find in a concordance that jot and tittle mean letter. Here Jesus clearly states that not one letter of the law will be changed as long as heaven and earth exist. We know that the law came from the Old Testament so based solely on (Matthew 5:18), it nor the Old Testament can not be done away with.

There is clearly a discrepancy between what is being taught and what the scriptures say. The fact, that Jesus came to fulfill is known, because that is what is stated in (Matthew 5:17). But one needs to find out what He was to fulfill, since that is the condition put forth in (Matthew 5:18), when He said no letter would pass from the law until all is fulfilled. You will see the information needed to answer this will be found in the Old Testament. This itself serves as further proof as to how erroneous the position of doing away with the Old Testament is. Let's focus on what Jesus was referring to when He said He came not to destroy the law, but to fulfill and His position on the commandments.

The Gospel of Luke, will reveal what Jesus meant when He said in (Matthew 5:17 & 18), that He came to fulfill and no letter would pass from the law until all is fulfilled. Looking at Luke chapter 24:14-44, you will find that , this is when Jesus had been crucified and Peter and others were at the grave site and they were contemplating the events that had occurred. Verse 16, tells you that Jesus had come among them but they did not know Him. In verse 17, Jesus asks them what were they discussing,

(17) And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?

In verse 19 and 20, they explained to Jesus what had taken place, still not recognizing Him. Verse 21, tells why they were sad, they had expected Jesus to restore Israel. (Israel as a nation , had a history of being conquered by other nations. They had been split into two kingdoms and the northern kingdom had already been taken into captivity prior to this time. All that remained was Judah, and now it had been taken over by Rome.) Now this was the 3rd day since Jesus crucifixion and they were in question because to them nothing had changed. Israel still remained in its same state. Note what Jesus says to them in verse 25:

(25) Then he said unto them, O fool, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

Now the prophets had spoke of many things that Jesus was to do when He came. However they were just focused on the redemption of Israel. That is why Jesus told them in verse 25 that they were not bringing into remembrance all the things that were spoken of Him by the prophets. He reminded them in verse 26 that He had to suffer first and then enter into glory. He then in verse 27 went over all that the scriptures had to say concerning Himself. Following is verse 27,

(27) And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself.

The following verse explains what Jesus meant in (Matthew 5:17) where He said He came not to destroy the law but to fulfill. Jesus says in (Luke 24:44) And He said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which are written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Here Jesus makes it clear that all things written about Him in the Old Testament must be fulfilled. Knowing that all things must be fulfilled by Jesus, as long as heaven and earth is still here, tells us that the law (Commandments) are still here as well and must be kept.

The letter of the law cannot be kept (Galatians 6:13).

The spirit of what is written (Exodus 34:27) is a different story (Romans 7:6).

If we walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4).

That means that we don't only keep it outwardly; we keep it inwardly.

In (Matthew 5:17), Jesus made the statement Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. He came not to destroy the law, or the prophets, but to fulfill. Based on that statement many ministers have taught their congregation that the arrival of Jesus did away with the Old Testament along with its laws, statutes and Judgements. They even make the statement, to their congregation, that they are no longer under the Old Testament, but now operate under the New. So you have people believing that the Old Testament is no longer relevant today. One needs only to further examine the scriptures to find out, how incorrect that position is.

In (Matthew 5:18), Jesus Himself states For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Now you will find in a concordance that jot and tittle mean letter. Here Jesus clearly states that not one letter of the law will be changed as long as heaven and earth exist. We know that the law came from the Old Testament so based solely on (Matthew 5:18), it nor the Old Testament can not be done away with.

There is clearly a discrepancy between what is being taught and what the scriptures say. The fact, that Jesus came to fulfill is known, because that is what is stated in (Matthew 5:17). But one needs to find out what He was to fulfill, since that is the condition put forth in (Matthew 5:18), when He said no letter would pass from the law until all is fulfilled. You will see the information needed to answer this will be found in the Old Testament. This itself serves as further proof as to how erroneous the position of doing away with the Old Testament is. Let's focus on what Jesus was referring to when He said He came not to destroy the law, but to fulfill and His position on the commandments.

The Gospel of Luke, will reveal what Jesus meant when He said in (Matthew 5:17 & 18), that He came to fulfill and no letter would pass from the law until all is fulfilled. Looking at Luke chapter 24:14-44, you will find that , this is when Jesus had been crucified and Peter and others were at the grave site and they were contemplating the events that had occurred. Verse 16, tells you that Jesus had come among them but they did not know Him. In verse 17, Jesus asks them what were they discussing,

(17) And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?

In verse 19 and 20, they explained to Jesus what had taken place, still not recognizing Him. Verse 21, tells why they were sad, they had expected Jesus to restore Israel. (Israel as a nation , had a history of being conquered by other nations. They had been split into two kingdoms and the northern kingdom had already been taken into captivity prior to this time. All that remained was Judah, and now it had been taken over by Rome.) Now this was the 3rd day since Jesus crucifixion and they were in question because to them nothing had changed. Israel still remained in its same state. Note what Jesus says to them in verse 25:

(25) Then he said unto them, O fool, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

Now the prophets had spoke of many things that Jesus was to do when He came. However they were just focused on the redemption of Israel. That is why Jesus told them in verse 25 that they were not bringing into remembrance all the things that were spoken of Him by the prophets. He reminded them in verse 26 that He had to suffer first and then enter into glory. He then in verse 27 went over all that the scriptures had to say concerning Himself. Following is verse 27,

(27) And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself.

The following verse explains what Jesus meant in (Matthew 5:17) where He said He came not to destroy the law but to fulfill. Jesus says in (Luke 24:44) And He said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which are written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Here Jesus makes it clear that all things written about Him in the Old Testament must be fulfilled. Knowing that all things must be fulfilled by Jesus, as long as heaven and earth is still here, tells us that the law (Commandments) are still here as well and must be kept.

Hi, many antinomianists insist the Old Covenant and God's Ten Commandment Moral Law are one in the same...so I always ask them to go to Romans 3:31 KJV and replace "law" with "Old Covenant" and then read it like that:

"Do we then make void the (Old Covenant) through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the (OLD COVENANT)."

Obviously, no sane New Covenant Christian will claim that the Old Covenant is established by Christians, yet these same antinomianists will continue to insist the Law and the Old Covenant are one one in the same, because in order to maintain their false belief, uncomfortable truth must take a back seat to comforting error.