witches

ok. no problem

anyway, I just go back to my original response to the op

Witches who have now become born again have testified that when they have cast spells of cursing on the born again type of believer, their spells backfired.

I consider that they are one and the same.

SOME witches against SOME believers

you continue to paint with the broadest brush you can lift

No, I am painting a narrow brush and saying of the born again Christian (as opposed to nominal Christians who are not born again), that a curse causeless shall not come.

Sure. Whether or not they succeed is something else.

Greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world.

Laura798 says your thread is inappropriate for a christian forum.

I think she needs an invite to her ancestry thread!

the war is won. Deus Invictus
have faith!

i agree that our brothers and sisters often suffer in ignorance - thinking death has power over them when it does not. thinking an idol is something when it is nothing.
i disagree that it's needless: i will let God raise His children as he sees fit, and i trust that He is faithful to do it, wisely beyond anyone else.

see, it's God -- not occultists.
Satan, a created being, had to ask for power to afflict Job, and God granted it to him within limits God imposed, e.g.

and Job was blessed sevenfold, greater than before his troubles. so who was really at work here? was God like, oh, ok Satan i didn't really have any plans for Job anyway, so just don't play too rough and wow wonder how this will turn out?
how does that account begin? God forces Satan to confess before the heavenly court his position and status. Who is running the show in the book of Job? witches? pssshhhh

yes

like i said, they can try.
however no one has power over the children of God, but our Father - tho some don't have this knowledge, including, tragically, most witches.
so God will teach us, gently and patiently.

you who are mature, invite them to try! let them see the power of our Lord

i would strongly caution against inviting evil to battle

We are never instructed to taunt, incite, invite or be boastful against satan and his angels

In Fact, we are warned never to do this - Jude

Although you are fully aware of this, I want to remind you that after Jesus had delivered His people out of the land of Egypt, He destroyed those who did not believe. 6And the angels who did not stay within their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling—these He has kept in eternal chains under darkness, bound for judgment on that great day. 7In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire.
8Yet in the same way these dreamers defile their bodies, reject authority, and slander glorious beings. 9But even the archangel Michael, when he disputed with the devil over the body of Moses, did not presume to bring a slanderous charge against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”b 10These men, however, slander what they do not understand, and like irrational animals,

But we are to walk and fight in the Spirit as the LORD chooses the battles 2 Cor 10

For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4For the weapons of our warfare are not [a]carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.

Understand that we only win when we are obedient to Christ and the will of God for us.

witchcraft is an agent of Satan , and does have demonic sourced power in this world. But in Christ , if we are in Christ , no weapon formed against us shall prosper.

This would include the weapon of cursing a Christian . On the other hand if we are a believer dwelling out in the shadows of darkness and sin where we don’t belong inviting things into our lives …we don’t have the same protection as when we are walking in the light

Christ is our protection so while we are safe in Christ nothing else has any power. there are only two forces, God's and Satan's, and we know that God (Jesus) is almighty.

that's the thing though

too broad a brush and you put everyone in the same category

too narrow and you miss a whole bunch

I don't think you are sitting in a place to tell us that only Christians you approve of are actually born again

I'm so sorry for this post and ashamed of my behavior.
We wrestle NOT against flesh and blood..........

you who are mature know that is not a good thing to do

Most Believers are struggling because they cannot Identify whom the Vessel being used by the Enemy is!
Witchcraft is just One Vessel the Enemy can try to weaken us with.
Many others, and why we put on the entire Armor of God!!

So, this thread is Appropriate for the Believers, WHO, do not know that their Enemy can appear in many forms!!

Once in my life I became very angry at God and suffered depression.

I blamed him for taking my support away from me,my mom passed.

Anyway being in captivity to sin,I visited a psychic. Yes I either believed they were phony or else were in close contact with a familiar or demon.

She told me things about my family that I didn't buy into,family was young at the time.

However 10 yrs later two of the things she had told me came true exactly as she said!

I remember in OT when the witch of Endor was compelled of Saul to call up the prophet Samuel. We know for a fact the word tells us that we are surrounded by both things seen and unseen.

Now the supernatural I don't understand BC there have been happenings in my life both as a non believer and a believer that are unexplainable.

I do believe Satan is an angel.of light and has the ability in our weakness to deceive believers. I put corrupt,wicked humans that practice black magic and are in league with the devil as evil but still redeemable. That's my opinion.

you are a precious example for others sister G

yes amen I agree completely . Satan has many tentacles in the world from witchcraft to Islam to any false religion or requiring of a persons allegiance over thier obligation to Christ who suffered and died for thier souls too even those who reject him owe him thier everlasting souls. And commit spiritual adultery by serving these many manifested callings of Satan in the world.

we are in a spiritual war every day of our life a spiritual world really we just can’t see it with our natural eyes only the eyes of faith can perceive it

“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:17‬ ‭

as you referee to earlier

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. ….And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:9, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

spiritual evil on earth ever present but the Holy Spirit in the heart of every believer ever present and ever greater

“Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:19-20‬ ‭

religions and beliefs and theories and theologies and fables and created tales of men will all burn up with the chaff but the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ will remain forever

“Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:35‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”

‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1:22-25