What does, “But the one who endures to the end will be saved” mean?
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I have to admit mistake, confusion, and just plain being wrong now. I think I got mixed up, in fact I know I did because I am completely lost.
I'm not sure how far back but I got your comments and Icey's mixed up, and at this point I haven't gone back to sort it out yet, but of course those of us that follow Jesus forgive, and if you did apologize, even if you didn't I forgive you. I don't believe there was much to forgive anyway, we were just having a discussion. But I do apologize too for coming off so strong, I know my strait forward style comes across bad in text far too often. It's crazy how I can say the same thing to the same person in text, then face to face and one would be considered hatful and offensive while the other would be taken as loving and caring. I was a bit "WAY TOO" sarcastic in my comments here too, so I'm sorry if I fueled the fire myself.
I'm not sure how far back but I got your comments and Icey's mixed up, and at this point I haven't gone back to sort it out yet, but of course those of us that follow Jesus forgive, and if you did apologize, even if you didn't I forgive you. I don't believe there was much to forgive anyway, we were just having a discussion. But I do apologize too for coming off so strong, I know my strait forward style comes across bad in text far too often. It's crazy how I can say the same thing to the same person in text, then face to face and one would be considered hatful and offensive while the other would be taken as loving and caring. I was a bit "WAY TOO" sarcastic in my comments here too, so I'm sorry if I fueled the fire myself.-
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It means.........a person having repented, been baptized and committed to living by God's commandments...a born again Christian...... will maintain (endurance) that posture of righteousness until our earthly physical death.
Scriptures speaks to this point by pointing in many ways.
It means.........a person having repented, been baptized and committed to living by God's commandments...a born again Christian...... will maintain (endurance) that posture of righteousness until our earthly physical death.
Scriptures speaks to this point by pointing in many ways.
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I have to admit mistake, confusion, and just plain being wrong now. I think I got mixed up, in fact I know I did because I am completely lost. I'm not sure how far back but I got your comments and Icey's mixed up, and at this point I haven't gone back to sort it out yet, but of course those of us that follow Jesus forgive, and if you did apologize, even if you didn't I forgive you. I don't believe there was much to forgive anyway, we were just having a discussion. But I do apologize too for coming off so strong, I know my strait forward style comes across bad in text far too often. It's crazy how I can say the same thing to the same person in text, then face to face and one would be considered hatful and offensive while the other would be taken as loving and caring. I was a bit "WAY TOO" sarcastic in my comments here too, so I'm sorry if I fueled the fire myself.
I'm not sure how far back but I got your comments and Icey's mixed up, and at this point I haven't gone back to sort it out yet, but of course those of us that follow Jesus forgive, and if you did apologize, even if you didn't I forgive you. I don't believe there was much to forgive anyway, we were just having a discussion. But I do apologize too for coming off so strong, I know my strait forward style comes across bad in text far too often. It's crazy how I can say the same thing to the same person in text, then face to face and one would be considered hatful and offensive while the other would be taken as loving and caring. I was a bit "WAY TOO" sarcastic in my comments here too, so I'm sorry if I fueled the fire myself.
All is forgiven.
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That is your typical conjecture...there is no scriptural language assigning the meaning to the trib. period...only.
It clearly refers to everyone living for Christ until His 2nd advent...including those caught up in the trib. period.
Your attempt to dissect the meaning and re-assign and limit it's coverage has failed...again.
It clearly refers to everyone living for Christ until His 2nd advent...including those caught up in the trib. period.
Your attempt to dissect the meaning and re-assign and limit it's coverage has failed...again.
Saved from what?
From the persecutions of the Antichrist (the one who erects the Abomination of Desolation).
Jesus is speaking of the desolations that Jerusalem will undergo during the days of vengeance. Through righteousness, those who trust in God's faithfulness will be delivered (saved) from these horrible events:
(The period of time -commonly referred to as the tribulation- is denoted with underlined text)
(mentions of salvation (deliverance) from the troubles of this time are denoted in bold)
“Near is the great day of the LORD, Near and coming very quickly; Listen, the day of the LORD! In it the warrior cries out bitterly. A day of wrath is that day, A day of trouble and distress, A day of destruction and desolation...I will bring distress on men...Neither their silver nor their gold Will be able to deliver them On the day of the LORD’S wrath; And all the earth will be devoured In the fire of His jealousy, For He will make a complete end, Indeed a terrifying one, Of all the inhabitants of the earth.” (Zephaniah 1:14–18)
“Say to those with anxious heart, “Take courage, fear not. Behold, your God will come with vengeance; The recompense of God will come, But He will save you.”” (Isaiah 35:4)
“‘Alas! for that day is great, There is none like it; And it is the time of Jacob’s distress, But he will be saved from it.” (Jeremiah 30:7)
Again...he (Jacob=Israel) will be saved from it
(the tribulation = the day of the Lord's wrath = the time of distress = the day of vengeance = when Jerusalem undergoes desolations)
From the persecutions of the Antichrist (the one who erects the Abomination of Desolation).
Jesus is speaking of the desolations that Jerusalem will undergo during the days of vengeance. Through righteousness, those who trust in God's faithfulness will be delivered (saved) from these horrible events:
(The period of time -commonly referred to as the tribulation- is denoted with underlined text)
(mentions of salvation (deliverance) from the troubles of this time are denoted in bold)
“Near is the great day of the LORD, Near and coming very quickly; Listen, the day of the LORD! In it the warrior cries out bitterly. A day of wrath is that day, A day of trouble and distress, A day of destruction and desolation...I will bring distress on men...Neither their silver nor their gold Will be able to deliver them On the day of the LORD’S wrath; And all the earth will be devoured In the fire of His jealousy, For He will make a complete end, Indeed a terrifying one, Of all the inhabitants of the earth.” (Zephaniah 1:14–18)
“Say to those with anxious heart, “Take courage, fear not. Behold, your God will come with vengeance; The recompense of God will come, But He will save you.”” (Isaiah 35:4)
“‘Alas! for that day is great, There is none like it; And it is the time of Jacob’s distress, But he will be saved from it.” (Jeremiah 30:7)
Again...he (Jacob=Israel) will be saved from it
(the tribulation = the day of the Lord's wrath = the time of distress = the day of vengeance = when Jerusalem undergoes desolations)
Show in Matthew 10 how it is referring to the end of the age.
To me, the context appears to be in conjunction with Jesus sending out His disciples by two and two to preach to the world.
Was James preaching a works gospel in James 1:12? Because that verse appears to me to be a companion verse to Matthew 10:22.
To me, the context appears to be in conjunction with Jesus sending out His disciples by two and two to preach to the world.
Was James preaching a works gospel in James 1:12? Because that verse appears to me to be a companion verse to Matthew 10:22.
That is correct.
For it is written,
Isa 57:12, I will declare thy righteousness, and thy works; for they shall not profit thee.
and,
1Co 4:5, Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
Every man shall have praise from God...
However, not every man shall enter into the kingdom (Matthew 7:13-14).
For it is written,
Isa 57:12, I will declare thy righteousness, and thy works; for they shall not profit thee.
and,
1Co 4:5, Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
Every man shall have praise from God...
However, not every man shall enter into the kingdom (Matthew 7:13-14).