poll who thinks smoking cigarettes is a temptation of the devil ?

Titus 1:15 niv uk

15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.



Titus 1:15 living bible



15 A person who is pure of heart sees goodness and purity in everything; but a person whose own heart is evil and untrusting finds evil in everything, for his dirty mind and rebellious heart color all he sees and hears. 16 Such persons claim they know God, but from seeing the way they act, one knows they don’t. They are rotten and disobedient, worthless so far as doing anything good is concerned.



Ok, as we can see from both verses, the heart that is corrupted is also the heart that has been defiled. The heart that is defiled is not pure. But here we see in these two scriptures no mention whatsoever of the real culprit who defiles the heart. (the devil and his demons), As we see also from these passages above its so easy to call a person evil or rotten or worthless, and not notice a person behaving this way has a demon. And for the smoker, he wouldn't know the devil wants him to defile his heart with cigarette smoke.

There's more to this verse than meets the eye. The heart that is unpure is also the heart that has become rotten. From defiling the body with nicotine smoke. From the above passage living bible we see that the devil loves a defiled heart or defiled temple (body) because then the worthless works can flourish with disobedience.



Blessed is the pure heart, who remembers that scripture ? Shall i have faith in my next cigarette, or shall I have faith in Jesus and keep my heart clean? ?



The Roman Catholic Church does not condemn smoking per se, but considers excessive smoking to be sinful, as described in the Catechism (CCC 2290): The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess: the abuse of food, alcohol, tobacco, or medicine.



Here is a real eye-opener. The roman Catholic Church is saying it's all right to smoke cigarettes in moderation.
But says excessive smoking is sinful. What a joke... it looks like Satan well and truly runs our world.

Ok, so anything that controls your mood is not Good, because we need to use our own self-control to overcome mood swings. And much more.

Smoking is not good as it is fundamentally a waste of money. But to make a big deal out of it is just being religious. There is no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus.

Smoking cigarettes' will not keep one from salvation.........you will not go to hell for smoking, but you WILL SMELL like you've been there

Are you listening to satan talking ? because satan would say over and over to people you will not go to hell for this and you will not go to hell for that, its ok to do this and its ok to do that.

Thus where did you get the idea this topic is about being sent to hell ?

But actually now you mention it there is such a thing as the body experiencing a living hell. and being defiled.

But yet you just condemed me, by calling me religious

Cigarettes are inhaled, pipe and cigar smoke are not intended to be inhaled.
Perhaps a cigar or pipe smoker like Spurgeon used it to be more contemplative and focused whereas a cigarette will get the buzz of influence of the chemicals and the resulting addictive hold.

Are you listening to satan talking ? because satan would say over and over to people you will not go to hell for this and you will not go to hell for that, its ok to do this and its ok to do that.

Thus where did you get the idea this topic is about being sent to hell ?

But actually now you mention it there is such a thing as the body experiencing a living hell. and being defiled.

Cigarettes are inhaled, pipe and cigar smoke are not intended to be inhaled.
Perhaps a cigar or pipe smoker like Spurgeon used it to be more contemplative and focused whereas a cigarette will get the buzz of influence of the chemicals and the resulting addictive hold.

I used to smoke a pipe for several years but got lazy in the cleaning and gave it up for cigarettes. Currently, smoke-free since 3/31/21. The struggle is real. Pipe people are prone to cancer in the lips and cigar people cancer of the throat. Snuff can cause various cancers in the mouth. Vaping has been known to cause holes in the lungs. It's all bad stuff for sure.

Hi my friend you raise a very good point, I thought I would think about your post before i would respond straight away, as in the past i can see you have shown respect, and on many occasions i have noticed how you have shown respect in disagreements and not caused trouble and fueled the disagreement into hatred or contentment. There seems to be to many bad lingering smells in the air from members starting conspiracies that people are no good hypocrites acting like Judges. It seems that the smokers are now hooking up to this latest resentment with pleasure. No doubt whilst they puff on a cigarette drinking a tequila or a whiskey or a bear claiming there also a good doctor of their own health and there health is untouchable and nothing bad will happen to them etc., that somehow their bodies are more super than anyone else, i think in their heads they have the real Jesus and others don't, but what they don't realize is that the devil will say smoking was invented for relaxation,

actually tho what the devil is saying is ha ha you're the latest sucker to defile their own body and another one of our casualties of war, ? because we are at war against the devil, Jesus Christ told us we are at war against a spiritual enemy until the end. Tell me what use is a person fighting the war against evil when all his vital senses are clogged up with tar or nicotine ?.

So this is the temptation from the devil. If you smoke a pipe or a cigar and don't inhale the smoke ie just taste it on your taste buds and breathe it out you will be fine. And even better you can show of with a really good cigar because we got some king Cubans. Or another temptation from the Devil would be if you let everyone else smell your cigar they all get into a good mood like you and buying one really good cigar will make a whole room of people feel as nice as you,, this is so cool.


.personaly tho ive tried to taste smoke without inhaling it,, its almost impossible.. but i guess once your deluded your deluded.

Cigarette smokeres have difficulty as it is the nature of cigarette smoking to inhale, not so with pipe and cigar.
The body loses the ability to prevent mutation around the age of 60, it is then amazing that we don't all succumb to cancer.

How have you taken what you posted to the Lord for His guidance?
We are required to do so.
Christianity today has missed the mark and become a laundry list of "do this, don't do that" activities and not relationship, vital active relationship.
It seems Spurgeon did keep his mind stayed on the Lord and desired to live a life pleaseing to the Father, others have as despite perhaps partaking in this activity. Not that this is a recommendation or approval, far from it. As we draw nearer and nearer to Him, He will draw nearere and nearer to us.
If Spurgeon and others served Jesus with every thought word and deed yet were partakers of what was socially acceptable then, what is that to you? We must each, individually, pick up our cross and follow Him.
This whole thread misses the mark.
Goodbye

"your far better helping others to hit the mark then leaving because of something youve seen that you dont like."


If we are His, our lives are hidden in Him, we go where He directs, we do what He directs us to do, we lean not on our own understanding.
Jesus modeled how we are all to live, He only did what He saw the Father do, He only said what He heard the Father say.
When He directs to leave what is a waste of time we each must be obedient, God is a God of purpose.