Do demons influence our world today?

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Dino246

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I think my hours every day deep in scripture is paying off, your represent the world and the world is solidly against me. That, also, is spoken of in scripture. Thank you.
Any other self-righteous comments you'd like to make? Your martyr complex is not a good thing.
 

Blik

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And this is a great example of your narrow black-and-white thinking. For you, it's either "almost every Christian" or "no danger for Christians"... with nothing in between (which is where reality exists).
Christ tells us to live with Christ within, our lifestyle is to reflect Christ. Christ speaks of food for the spirit as opposed to food that is simply eliminated. These posts are usually speaking against such ideas. Doesn't that tell you something? Posters want no posts that dares mention any missing the mark.

If there was a poll that listed the amount of time spent listening to the world speak to them ad listening or thinking about how the Lord speaks to them and they were honest how do you think it would report on our time. I know until three years ago, how most of my time was spent and it wasn't with the Lord.
 

Dino246

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I know until three years ago, how most of my time was spent and it wasn't with the Lord.
So, given that you have experienced a positive change in your life, kindly stop assuming the worst of other Christians.
 

MatthewWestfieldUK

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Found it hard to make Christian friends in church as people seemed to discuss money a lot
 

Blik

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Found it hard to make Christian friends in church as people seemed to discuss money a lot
It is hard to make friends of people of the church. I posted about what scripture tells us about living life as a Christ, and most of the responses were accusations against me, almost nothing about what scripture tells us about living for Christ. They pushed Christ aside and used me for target practice.
 
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It is hard to make friends of people of the church. I posted about what scripture tells us about living life as a Christ, and most of the responses were accusations against me, almost nothing about what scripture tells us about living for Christ. They pushed Christ aside and used me for target practice.
be meek & confident in god.4 they & can only oppose them self's
 
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And this is a great example of your narrow black-and-white thinking. For you, it's either "almost every Christian" or "no danger for Christians"... with nothing in between (which is where reality exists).
Jesus said that.That your either 4 me or agaist me. I'm sure theirs some grey skulls.
 

TMS

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1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

The devil or Satan will lie and scheme in what ever way he can to deceive us. Don't trust your senses. trust the word of God like Jesus did.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Scripture tells us that demons will be listened to more and more as we draw closer to the return of Jesus. This seems to be very true.

There are two opposing worlds: the world of the flesh and the kingdom of God. As Christians we are to live in the kingdom, not the flesh. Today the world is very intrusive for demons speak through TV, movies, and even our newspapers. Some movies openly teach the occult. A delightful TV sitcom popular not long ago taught that witches came be very entertaining. There are many movies based on a dead person interacting with the living, a takeoff on the seances of the occult. There isn’t even the slightest pretense of relating a good lifestyle with the lifestyle Jesus tells us we are to follow.

Almost every Christian spends more time being taught by the media than being taught by Christ. Few Christians even think about living a life of Christ within that shows in their lifestyle. It is as if Christianity has become a religion only of the mind, theology is king yet Christ taught little about theology and lots about living for God.

Sometimes Christians even give up the law of love that is basic Christianity over differences in scripture interpretation. Just look at the fights over the day of the Sabbath or about what Paul tells us about law! There are people on this site who have sworn to be my enemy because I have posted what I think about these things.

I was led to this post by reading the book “Will the Real Heretics Please Stand Up” by Bercot. This should be a lively discussion.
just wanted to add some scripture to support what you are saying which which I fully agree

“Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:11-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

when Christ was taken up Satan was cast out of heaven with his angels ( demons ) evil spiritual beings d then he began to war against Gods children . We see the effects all around us understanding that just as Gods spirit works through a man who has him in our hearts , evil spirits work through men who accept them into thier heart all men serve by spirit whether Gods spirit or the enemy spirits in the world being sourced here

“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:9, 12, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that’s going to continue until Christ returns and it’s why the world is in this state

“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s why the apostles taught those thkngs about a spiritual war and gearing up with Gods spiritual armor for the battle

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I believe demons fallen angels who were corrupted by Satan are in this state awaiting the day of judgement

“And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭8:29, 31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

they know Christ is victorious and there is a day of judgement for them ahead , which many men deny , but until that day like men are allowed to continue so they are continuing on attempting to slay the souls of many who would be saved through corruption and influence

the many worldly influences you are speaking of technology that the world now worships and sends forth corrupt images and stories fables and myths perpetuates many false ideas and religions even many countries terrier Christian beliefs

I think of the internet and it is such a powerful influence in the world I see it as a conduit for many evil spirits to enter into men’s hearts and minds , though we understand it can be good or evil , it only seems to reflect the state of mankind thier spiritual state and like the world it mostly abides in wickedness and error

important consideration in your post blik thanks for taking the time and sharing the consideration
 

MatthewWestfieldUK

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It is hard to make friends of people of the church. I posted about what scripture tells us about living life as a Christ, and most of the responses were accusations against me, almost nothing about what scripture tells us about living for Christ. They pushed Christ aside and used me for target practice.
Happy to chat if u wish, but im no teacher
 

Dino246

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Jesus said that.That your either 4 me or agaist me. I'm sure theirs some grey skulls.
It would be helpful to apply Jesus' words in their proper context rather than using them to justify inappropriate and self-serving categorizations.
 

1ofthem

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Christ tells us to live with Christ within, our lifestyle is to reflect Christ. Christ speaks of food for the spirit as opposed to food that is simply eliminated. These posts are usually speaking against such ideas. Doesn't that tell you something? Posters want no posts that dares mention any missing the mark.

If there was a poll that listed the amount of time spent listening to the world speak to them ad listening or thinking about how the Lord speaks to them and they were honest how do you think it would report on our time. I know until three years ago, how most of my time was spent and it wasn't with the Lord.
Your thread is helpful. I heard a preacher use an analogy once. Saying the flesh and the spirit could be compared to two pups. If you feed one and starve one then whichever one you choose to feed will become the strongest.

I've found that to be completely true. If I let myself get more into worldly things and slack up, on reading the Word and praying then I become more carnal. I'm walking in the flesh and not the spirit.

The enemy is sneaky though so like others have said we do need to put on and keep on the full armor of God and be prepared for spiritual battle.

I was at a point last year, where I was spending way too much of my time watching the news. This was odd because I never watched the news for more than 5 minutes before that. At first, I thought there was no harm in it, seeing it was only the news and not anything sinful....Well, that's what the enemy led me to believe, anyhow.

The more time I put into watching the news, the more I saw the negative effect in my life. I was just sitting around cursing the darkness....All I could think about was democrats this, democrats that, and how they were completely destroying our nation....Or BLM and all the deceived people following along with all that nonsense etc. etc. etc. I just got more and more upset and discouraged.

Long story shorter, that is when the friend I was talking about in my earlier post told me that instead of sitting around focusing on and cursing the darkness, I should light and candle.

I was taking my eyes off the Lord and putting too much focus on this world which is going to melt away. Almost letting my own candle/light go out.

There are many people lost and mislead and we should all be concerned about their souls. We should try to show a light to as many people as we can.

Anyways, I do think your thread is needed. The enemy is cunning and crafty so people (including myself) do need to be reminded of what is important....that is putting God first and walking in the Spirit and not the flesh.
 

1ofthem

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Would it harm any of us to be kinder to our brothers and sisters? If the answer is yes, then we need to take it before the Lord and find out the problem. Because there is definitely a problem, if all we want to do is bite and devour one another...just saying.
 
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SophieT

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I think my hours every day deep in scripture is paying off, your represent the world and the world is solidly against me. That, also, is spoken of in scripture. Thank you.
right

you are the only one with a Bible and the only one who understands the Bible and God did everything only for you

you are delusional
 

shittim

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So very many, my self included have been guided to cut the cord, get rid of cable and TV altogether, and keep stayed on Him, praying in the divine prayer language wothout ceasing as the day gets closer.
 
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SophieT

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Christ tells us to live with Christ within, our lifestyle is to reflect Christ. Christ speaks of food for the spirit as opposed to food that is simply eliminated. These posts are usually speaking against such ideas. Doesn't that tell you something? Posters want no posts that dares mention any missing the mark.

If there was a poll that listed the amount of time spent listening to the world speak to them ad listening or thinking about how the Lord speaks to them and they were honest how do you think it would report on our time. I know until three years ago, how most of my time was spent and it wasn't with the Lord.
God does not operate with polls. first you say everyone is worldly (but you) and then you want to use a worldly poll to prove what you say

speaking of honest, how is it you ignore what I said about demons being active in the world?
 

shittim

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right

you are the only one with a Bible and the only one who understands the Bible and God did everything only for you

you are delusional
I have a hope our friend Blik is only having difficulty in expressing.
We all come to Him as we are, and we all must then grow into the image of the Son, we are all at differing maturities in this.
best wishes
 
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SophieT

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It is hard to make friends of people of the church. I posted about what scripture tells us about living life as a Christ, and most of the responses were accusations against me, almost nothing about what scripture tells us about living for Christ. They pushed Christ aside and used me for target practice.
that is not true

you are so predictable. you are not a judge or anyone's judge. you have no clue how many Christians are actually quite awake and probably more so than you are

all your posts are about you and how you are such a light in the world :rolleyes:
 
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SophieT

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I have a hope our friend Blik is only having difficulty in expressing.
We all come to Him as we are, and we all must then grow into the image of the Son, we are all at differing maturities in this.
best wishes
nah. she does this in every thread and has been doing it for years

she is a law keeper....haven't you read some of those?

I am not on board with someone...anyone...lumping all Christians together as bad, while singing their own praises
 

shittim

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Many people have been immature for years, Paul comes to mind.