Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

I wasn't testing. I was putting in filler. You guys should put in an option that allows us to cancel a post if we decide that we don't want to follow through with it. I put the test up there because I decided that I did not want to put in my original post and had to put something in the space, otherwise it will show up the next time I try to post in addition to the posters information.

1 Corinthians 5:5
5To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

1 Timothy 1:20
20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

Jesus does not work with satan, whos account is this ?.

Whos account is this ? Jesus does not work with satan.

Here is the account of Jesus.
The lords prayer.
And lead us not into temptation,[a]
but deliver us from the evil one.
Jesus


Luke 22 kjv the account of Jesus
31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: Jesus does not want satan to have anybody.

32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren. satan wants your faith to fail by believing Jesus works with satan.

whos repersentation was was this. who was talking to simon. was it luke ? and wasnt luke saying satan is trying to seperate you from God by tempting you ? does that not mean God has no part in this ?

So what is your position regarding satan and demons?

You keep saying "God allows..." Or " would God allow"

That is too broad and tedious to unpack from every dynamic we encounter as believers.

I can say God allowed this or that.
So what?

I wasn't testing. I was putting in filler. You guys should put in an option that allows us to cancel a post if we decide that we don't want to follow through with it. I put the test up there because I decided that I did not want to put in my original post and had to put something in the space, otherwise it will show up the next time I try to post in addition to the posters information.

@Pilgrimshope @JaumeJ @1ofthem @Absolutely @Mem @Dino246 @Magenta @Lucy-Pevensie @glen55 @Gideon300 @Runningman @Ahwatukee Please take a moment to read this and answer.

The lord is my sheperd and my mod The lord filled in all gaps and exposed the lies of satan he spoke in the old testerment many times and moderated the whole lot, in the new testerment . So lets discuss and be willing to dicusss this i ask this of you all in the name of Jesus.

Christianity is the correct religion which teaches fully how christians should believe, pray, and of course defeat satan and his army, Satan who is looking to steal us all and make all of mankind stumble is the father of all lies, and his lies have been fully exposed by Jesus. and this topic needs to be discussed. (for the sake of all mankind and our lost brothers all around the world, its time to get out your trumpets and rant with a loud shout to call the lost isrealites home, who are currently displaced all over world), im not saying you all rant and play games but for those who do YOUR RANTS WILL NOT BE HERD AND NEITHER WILL YOUR GAMES.

The whole bible of christianity (the new testerment) exposes the lies of satan in the old testerment. but yet sombody has combined the whole lot of the old testerment with the whole lot of the new testerment and vice versa, after Jesus was crucified and his 12 opostles killed, (satans revenge) through the mind of saint jerome ( who was ordained by a corrupted catholic church) saint jerome put the old testerment and new testerment in the chronological order it is, in my oppinion saint jerome was possessed by a tricking demon. Jesus spoke to the jews and told them this.

John 8:44-45

King James Version

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

Jesus was telling the jews they where being decieved by the father of all lies. that the father they knew was the devil. and now im sayin that this is also the same for anyone who defends the lies of satan in our bible is of the father the devil sadly (but not permanant, sadly until people realise his lies in the bible, doing the lords work will be harder. The devil wants to be our father in a (wierd evil way), but decieves you in an evil way and convinces you that his evil is Good.

This is exactly what satan has done in the story of Job 1
20Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who turn darkness to light and light to darkness, who replace bitter with sweet and sweet with bitter. 21Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight.…

Lets look at Job 1 again
6 When the day came for the heavenly beings[b] to appear before the Lord, Satan[c] was there among them. 7 The Lord asked him, “What have you been doing?”
Satan answered, “I have been walking here and there, roaming around the earth.”8 “Did you notice my servant Job?” the Lord asked. “There is no one on earth as faithful and good as he is. He worships me and is careful not to do anything evil.”

So it should be clear from this scripture that The lord knows satan and satan knows the lord, but is it clear and is this the truth. lets see.
mathew 4 3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.

Notice satan says to Jesus IF,,,,,,,, if,,,,,, IF You are the son of God,,,,,,If If If. its clear satan does not know the lord... If implies i dont know you.

John 1:5 Jesus
KJV
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. (the darkesss is a seperate force to the light where demons come from. They are not from the light.)

Mathew 4 10 Jesus said to satan, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’[e]” .

Its clear That Jesus does not want to know satan. and satan does not know God

do you see this.

Toward the extreme right hand side of the icons above the message box is something that looks like a floppy disc (second to last icon)... if you hover your cursor over it, Drafts appears, and if you click it, you can either save or delete draft. Also, deleting unwanted content is always an option by highlighting/erasing. It does happen to me occasionally where I see something leftover that I decided not to post, show up as unwanted material in a new post, but simply deleting it easy enough I hope you find that helpful

Do not test the bored, your mod.

winner

I had no idea of that option.
I always thought God allowed it or the devil was somehow involved.

.....just joking dude!

What denomination or group do you fellowship in?
Is there a link to a like minded group?

....and dont get all defensive about it.

You should READILY supply that info.

amen

Our dealings are with God.

Demons are more frightened of Christians than we are of them ... providing we know our position in Christ.

You funny! But seriously, I just found out about this Drafts thingy recently myself, and
here we are, what? More than three years after our platform change of May 2018!!!
In the meantime I had relied solely on catching it before posting, and simply erasing
Or, spying it in my already posted message, being able to edit it out before the 5 minute limit

Um I don't think Paul is suggesting that he's Satanic. I hope you don't think that.

I think the devil does what he does and sometimes Christians are left to deal with that.

sorry to see your siding with ignorant responses, this out of character for you

you havent answered the question, of whos account was it.

0h absoluetly

sorry to see your siding with ignorant responses, this out of character for you

when was the last time you exorcised a demon from a person, ?(probably never)
because if you knew the true character of demon you would know a person gets frightened by demons. a person live in fear, when being attacked by a demon. you know nothing about demons and lot of you people here who make out they know the lord better than others, know nothing either.