Works

But your trying to put people under It . You don't understand its purpose .

Do you think that when the Lord told us we were not under the law, what the Lord was saying was for us not to listen to Him? That is NOT what this means.

If we were under the law, then we would need to obey all the law to be saved, we would be under the law for salvation. We are not, we are under grace for salvation. It is a terrible thing to do to scripture to change "not under law" into "ignore the law". That is not what it is saying to us.

It is a terrible thing to do to scripture to change "not under law" into "ignore the law". That is not what it is saying to us.

It is wonderful that you know you can't be justified by the law, but a crying shame your learning of the law stops there.

hi crossnote.. its a matter of obeying the law for christians. The person who keeps the law is God. God is the law keeper. God keeps the law and preaches the law. its up to us to obey the law.

if we obey the law we also keep the law. but the law does not belong to us the law belongs to God. Now the works of the law are different to keeping the law.

A violation of the law is to break the law. then we would not be obeying the law. and then we wouldnt be keepers of the law.

The works of the law which christian are asked to do are holy.

holy holy holy

Back to assuming things I see.

Do you think that when the Lord told us we were not under the law, what the Lord was saying was for us not to listen to Him? That is NOT what this means.

If we were under the law, then we would need to obey all the law to be saved, we would be under the law for salvation. We are not, we are under grace for salvation. It is a terrible thing to do to scripture to change "not under law" into "ignore the law". That is not what it is saying to us.

Most of the salvation scriptures are referencing the deliverance that the born again child of God receives here on earth by their good works.

This post is about blessing obedience to law can bring. Being that obedience to law can never bring the blessing of salvation, is there some reason you have for bringing this truth into a post it does not belong in?

Its you that's taking that extreme "
"not under law" into "ignore the law "
I don't 'ignore 'scriptures that mention the law . But a believer is still not UNDER the law ,in any sense.

Back to...? You mean she stopped?

Do you think that when the Lord told us we were not under the law, what the Lord was saying was for us not to listen to Him? That is NOT what this means.

Many are scolding at me, saying how wrong I am but never explaining through scripture how that is.

This time, they are all lily white and I am black as coal because they say they aren't under law and I'd like to be allowed to say I think the Lord gave us the law out of love for us so we are under law to learn how to live for the Lord, but under grace for forgiveness and I would SO like to be allowed to say so without this labeling that happens so often.

When scripture tells us that works do not enter into the equation when God decides about our salvation, only faith is looked at, how could anyone on a Christian site say that is not true?

This op is about works, thinking of it as completely apart from thinking of salvation. This op's discussion is about what the Lord tells us about works APART from the fact that they do not save. The only way I have found that works are spoken of in scripture in relation to being saved is that works are the result of salvation.

The eternal, still effective, part of the old covenant speaks of the Lord giving fleshly rewards for works apart from salvation, for the eternal truth given in the old testament is that there is not salvation without blood. We are given the fruits of the spirit for works, those fruits are apart from salvation.

We are NOT to work for salvation, but we are not told we may not work for earthly rewards, in fact we are told we will be judged by our works.

maybe if you didn't accuse people of thinking things they never thought, you would be able to understand what they actually are saying.

I am not defending the poster. I am pointing out something you do more often than not.

well, the rest of us see it anyway

Hogwash. You reject every explanation, whether given with Scripture or not.

Nevertheless, here's some Scripture for you: Hebrews 8:7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.

Hebrews 8:13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first on OBSOLETE; and what is OBSOLETE and aging will soon disappear.


Wrong. This isn't about anyone being white or black; it's about the truth of Scripture. You can say whatever you like, but that doesn't mean you have the truth. We don't correct you simply because you're wrong, but rather because we want you to enjoy the glorious freedom we have in Jesus Christ.

When people twist scripture and misrepresent God, God will take care of it. There is a secular saying about this, give you enough rope and you will hang yourself.