Who was Jesus praying to in the garden of Gethsemane?

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TheLearner

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Back to the part you ignored.

Mark 16
Even so, verses 14-15 lets us know the statement was addressed to the Apostles only, not everyone.

14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Paul is the only one I remember who was bite by a snake.

Matthew 28
16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Context Matters.
 

ewq1938

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No one including myself is denying Jesus is God, so get a life friend.
That wasn't what was being discussed. You deny part of God's Holy Word so I reject those who do that. You get a life and stop the red herring fallacies.
 

TheLearner

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That wasn't what was being discussed. You deny part of God's Holy Word so I reject those who do that. You get a life and stop the red herring fallacies.
Apologies, your signature through me off.

Jesus is God because he, himself, says he is God: "I will be his God"- Rev 21:7
Jesus is God
because the OT says Israel's Rock was God and Christ was that same Rock
Ps 78:35, 1 Cor 10:4
 

TheLearner

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Back to the part you ignored which shows the text of Mark 16 was addressed only to the Apostles, not every one else.

Mark 16
Even so, verses 14-15 lets us know the statement was addressed to the Apostles only, not everyone.

14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Paul is the only one I remember who was bite by a snake.

Matthew 28
16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Context Matters.
 

Blade

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Some took this off the tracks. Yes I believe Christ was praying to the Father. Christ told one that wanted their kids to sit next to Him yet He said you don't know what you ask that is not mine to give but the Father. Its written a few times Christ is seated at the right hand of the Father. Its not written God made man in His image its written let US make man in our image. "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness". Christ said had to finish the work of the Father. Christ also said "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not" What I like is what He said "how often would "I" have gathered they children together". Catch it? I? :)

There really is a God "Father" where Christ is as its written seated at the right hand. Even written in Isa 41:10 "Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with My righteous right hand."

Hard to talk about spiritual things when some are still stuck believing only what they see hear and feel in the natural. I am not saying I am an expert but for some its like talking things like philosophy of physics lets say. Some can't handle understand the natural how can you even grasp the supernatural? Oh its nice to read whats written (scripture)in a post yet in the same post will well be something that is no where in the word and is just speculation. You just shot down what you said.

You know Gab rebuked Satan over the body of Moshes and Christ cast out a demon called Legion whos name is not written in the Torah. Every angel and fallen angel and every demon has a name. Most are no where in the word of God. Christ even did say things that are not written. He spent what 40 more days after He rose and.. is it written? It just gets silly.
 

TheLearner

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Genesis 1:27: “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.”

Genesis 9:6 ESV
“Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image.


Colossians 3:10 ESV
And have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator.


1 Corinthians 11:7 ESV
For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man.

2 Corinthians 4:16 ESV
So we do not lose heart. Though our outer self is wasting away, our inner self is being renewed day by day.


Genesis 1:26-28 ESV
Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

In verse 27 you are dealing with the second part of a hebrew Parallel. That verse is a qualification of what happened.
 

randyk

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It's a simple enough question. True?

Who was Jesus praying to in the garden of Gethsemane?
God the Son was praying to God the Father. Simple. He was not connecting to his "inner self." Rather, he was demonstrating that within the unity of Deity God could exist outside of all creation and also within creation so as to create a real relationship between the two personages.
 

TheLearner

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God the Son was praying to God the Father. Simple. He was not connecting to his "inner self." Rather, he was demonstrating that within the unity of Deity God could exist outside of all creation and also within creation so as to create a real relationship between the two personages.
Also, read Romans 8 both Jesus or Son of God and the Holy Spirit both pray to the Father.