Was Justice Served For George Floyd?

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Roughsoul1991

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It's going to vary from state to state but just as a part of reference, it takes more hours of training to get a beautician's license in California then it does to become a police officer
Where do I find those stats? I mean it is California so it wouldn't surprise me.
 

Nehemiah6

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I don't believe Chauvin intended to kill Floyd. And I don't believe it had anything to do with race.
Correct. No one mentions that all of this started out by Floyd trying to pass off a counterfeit bill as money. But Chauvin acted stupidly and now he is paying the price for stupidity, not murder. Too many cops are being totally stupid on the job, and there are many recent instances of making the wrong decisions at the wrong time. And then those rookies simply stood by instead of saying "That's enough". More stupidity.
 

Nehemiah6

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I kind of feel like we should just decriminalize street drugs except maybe meth It just seems like a waste of money to lock people up over non-violent drug offences
I would agree with you on this. A total waste of manpower, money and time on petty crime, plus the burden on the courts and jails. And while the politicians are at it, the War of Drugs should be disbanded. What business does the DEA have in Mexico or Central America?

If the country was serious about drugs entering the USA, then the southern border should have been totally shut down long ago until the Mexican government GUARANTEED that every truck and vehicle had been inspected by Mexico and was clean before entering the States. But that is too much to expect from feckless politicians who like to talk and do nothing.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Why is everyone agreeing to decriminalizing street drugs?
 
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I don't think Chauvin mean to murder Floyd...in broad daylight?

His wife did leave him/file for divorce a few days after this death. I think this raises some questions, as though she knows something.
 
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I believe the officer should have been convicted of negligence and manslaughter but the prosecutors didn't prove it was racially motivated, nor did they prove he intended to kill, nor did they prove the officer intended to harm others. I believe manslaughter in the second degree could easily be proven. Remember the jury must prove beyond the reason of doubt which is a very high bar to prove.

With politicians promoting riots, BLM riots, threats, and the President's support, I believe we saw the image of mob justice.

This has been promoted to prove systemic racism and this has not been proven.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/20/derek-chauvin-trial-verdict.html

Minnesota's third-degree murder statute reads: "Whoever, without intent…causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life…"

Second-degree murder is an intentional killing

Minnesota Statutes 609.205 – Manslaughter in the Second Degree

(1) by the person’s culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another; or

Not a good day for law and order or the nation. The liberal call wasn't to cheer the system but cheer the means that they brought justice. The means of mob rule. They see the system as needing to be torn down and if we play along, soon this behavior will be against the Christian in court for holding to the beliefs of God.

(I do not defend the officer who had many offenses or Floyd who was a criminal and on drugs. )
It does not matter if it makes sense or not concerning systematic racism, white guilt, white privilege, and BLM, and whatever else is going on with things like that.

Agenda 21, Agenda 2030, is to have a global government by 2030 which 179 nations in 1994 agreed to Agenda 21 but did not put it in writing but it will be done eventually.

Which will start out innocent as trade at first when the nations come together , and people will be fed and clothed, but when the New Age Christ starts working in the world and pushing the agenda of the new age movement things will become more his way and he will be the biggest player in the world before he claims to be God.

The stimulus checks is a pattern for basic income for they will collapse the economy for the kingdom to come is more important to them than money, and they will print out money left and right to give people a basic income.

Which they do not want an uproar of the people when the economy collapses, but want to let them know ahead of time they will be taken care of.

The only way a global government can work is to put all people equal and harmonize the people as one so they have to knock the white people down and lift the minorities up.

They have to convince the minorities that they are important and they are doing something about racism mostly targeted at white people for the time being.

So they make up systematic racism, white guilt, and white privilege, and blow it out of proportion, so they can have the solution we are doing something about it to convince the minorities.

So the white people are going to catch it but they have to do that in order to harmonize the people and put them equal.

But systematic racism does not exist nor does it make sense for some white people are prejudice and some white people are not prejudice, and there is no systematic racism, it is as simple as that.

But they do not care about facts and reality for they have an agenda they are pushing.

And white guilt does not exist nor does it make sense for nobody is responsible for the sins of other people for that is their sins.

If a black person shoots a white person, steals from them, and offends them then they are all guilty with that reasoning.

If they want to back up years ago to when white people had slaves and say white guilt then we can back up all through history when black people offended people and had slaves and then there is black guilt.

If that is the case all people are guilty for all their ancestors at one time were cruel to other people, and had slaves.

But they do not care about facts and reality for they have an agenda they are pushing.

And white privilege does not apply because black people will give black people privilege, and many white people give black people privilege above white people.

All nations and ethnic groups push for power but when they do not have the power they cry they are oppressive and cruel, but if they had the power they would push it too.

It is a game in the world of people being selfish, wanting their own way, being greedy, cruel, pushing for power, thinking they are better than other people.

They play the same game as the white people and the world and then cry when they are not on top all the while they want to be on top.

So it really boils down to they do not like that they are not on top but they want to be on top.

They play the game and act like the white people and then talk about the white people.

Also Agenda 21 is to ban the police and the communities work together to fight crime in their communities.

BLM is the start of Agenda 21 to cry out for equality, and to ban the police.

The BLM movement founders are pushing a socialist agenda and pushing Agenda 21 which is a sustainability act which they talk of sustainability on the BLM website.

Facts do not matter, reality does not matter, common sense does not matter, logical reasoning does not matter, for they have an agenda to push and will push it.

The black people have the highest crime rate according to percentage of population, shoot each other more than any other ethnic group, have the highest abortion rate and 3 time higher than white people, and attack white people 9 times more than white people attack black people.

But it does not matter for there is an agenda they want to push and will believe what they want to believe even if it does not make sense.

There is no systematic racism, there is no white guilt, there is no white privilege, across the board and nobody is guilty for slavery.

I do not care if your father was Hitler if you do not go along with him then you are not guilty.

But they have an agenda to push.

It is time to knock down the white people and police, and lift the minorities and convince them that they are important and they matter, and they are doing something about racism.

So they exaggerate it, and blow it put of proportion, so they can say we are going to do something about it.

And white policemen are going to catch it the most for that is a double whammy.

But a global government cannot work unless it is balance between socialism and democracy which it will be but BLM and democrats are pushing the socialism side of it, and Republicans, Donald Trump are pushing the democracy side of it, for they are now working together all the while they are acting like they are not together, and soon they will harmonize and bring the people together.

E Pluribus Unum, out of many, one.

They will also harmonize atheism, and spirituality, religion, by way of new age movement which is atheist, but spiritual as they believe people are still evolving to be spiritual, and the New Age Christ, antichrist will push the agenda of the new age movement in the world before he claims to be God.
 

Nehemiah6

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Why is everyone agreeing to decriminalizing street drugs?
Because these are petty crimes. Targeting gangs, cartels, mafias, is where the resources should be directed. Above all, blocking traffic from the southern border (or from any known source of drugs) should be the primary goal. Fentanyl inflows have gone through the roof since Biden opened the borders. Yet he has not been impeached or made an accessary to drug trafficking.
Customs and Border Protection Officers Seize Narcotics Worth Over $11 Million
https://www.westernjournal.com/customs-border-protection-officers-seize-narcotics-worth-11-million/

The governments are not serious about drugs, otherwise they would have taken serious measures. Why did the border states fail to deploy their National Guards and also shut down their borders? Going after kids with a few grams of coke or heroin is just a joke.
 

GiveThanks

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The black people have the highest crime rate according to percentage of population, shoot each other more than any other ethnic group, have the highest abortion rate and 3 time higher than white people, and attack white people 9 times more than white people attack black people.
And now that you have made the point that black people are the most evil people on the face of the earth, what does that have to do with what happend to Floyd?

Are you saying that because black people are evil, evil things should be done to us? If that is so, wouldnt that make the person doing the evil act, evil as well?
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Shouldnt Chauvin who is not apart of the evil black race, have shown his compassion and goodness by sparing the life of that black man? tenor.gif
 
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And now that you have made the point that black people are the most evil people on the face of the earth, what does that have to do with what happend to Floyd?

Are you saying that because black people are evil, evil things should be done to us? If that is so, wouldnt that make the person doing the evil act, evil as well?
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Shouldnt Chauvin who is not apart of the evil black race, have shown his compassion and goodness by sparing the life of that black man? View attachment 227201
That is what I am not saying that black people are the evilest for they are no different than any other ethnic group.

But they should not look at all white people as bad, and say white guilt for nobody is responsible for the sins of other people, and the white people are not doing what other ethnic groups have been doing for years pushing for power and control starting with Egypt and Africa.

Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another.

They say oh those white people, and oh those black people, but they act the same if they are not with God and Christ.

I am white but I do not stick up for white people, and I am a man but I do not stick up for men, but I play fair and whoever is right I side with them.

But the world will not see it that way and will point their fingers at other ethnic groups but their own people are doing the same thing or in the case of wanting prosperity want the same.

KKK is wrong and have committed atrocities for how is the white people superior for they are not.

I just do not like when one ethnic group dogs out another ethnic group but their own people act the same.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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Can justice be served in these situations?
A man who should have been fired a long long time ago, because his many abuses, was allowed to continue until he killed a drug addicted petty criminal.
The whole story is tragic and no good will come from it.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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Is it justice that we want served as Christians, or is it repentance that we prefer?
I prefer the gospel be worked in people, and that they repent. Only God can do that.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You can train night and day, but in split second decisions, you have to make a choice. A young woman is going to stab another, split second, what do you do? It's just not that simple.
Amen
that guy did what he should have done. He yelled how many times for her to stop? If he did not do that. We would be slamming him for not doing anything while that teenager killed another woman.
There are many questions which need to be asked. But not to the policeman. To the people who were there. The man walked into a mob (did you see the dad kick that person? And why was no one else doing something to stop it. Why was the girl even outside? She should have been in the house. As soon as police arrived they should have stopped and the guilty would be dealt with and that girl would be alive
This mentality we are teaching our kids are hurting them nit helping them and we blame the police for our mistakes
 
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eternally-gratefull

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In Christ there is no race

Red and yellow black and white they are precious in his s site Jesus lives the little children of the world

How many remember that song? Racism is a byproduct if a world without God.
 

Nehemiah6

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Racism is a byproduct if a world without God.
Correct. And racial hatred is from Satan, who was a Murderer from the beginning. He is now using the only tool left in the arsenal of the American Leftists and Black Racists to destroy America from within. This is primarily because of election fraud.
 

HoneyDew

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That is what I am not saying that black people are the evilest for they are no different than any other ethnic group.

But they should not look at all white people as bad, and say white guilt for nobody is responsible for the sins of other people, and the white people are not doing what other ethnic groups have been doing for years pushing for power and control starting with Egypt and Africa.

Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another.

They say oh those white people, and oh those black people, but they act the same if they are not with God and Christ.

I am white but I do not stick up for white people, and I am a man but I do not stick up for men, but I play fair and whoever is right I side with them.

But the world will not see it that way and will point their fingers at other ethnic groups but their own people are doing the same thing or in the case of wanting prosperity want the same.

KKK is wrong and have committed atrocities for how is the white people superior for they are not.

I just do not like when one ethnic group dogs out another ethnic group but their own people act the same.

And yet here you are doing the same in some of your posts that I have read, all black people don't think like that. This site sure is obsessed with and have a disdain for black people.

Not many nice posts concerning black people. Someone even called black people disgusting with only one or two rebuking the comment. Seems like there are more people here pushing their agenda then being a Christian.

I will say this as long as noone knew I was black, people here were kind and welcoming and spoke with grace & respect. As soon as I revealed that I was black. I was ganged up on. People became rude and obnoxious and I was even called "DUNG". There are some nice people here but the not so nice people outweigh them by ALOT.

I've got news from some, there will be black people in Heaven too. God loves and forgives us also. I'm so glad He is not like man.
 

HoneyDew

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And yet here you are doing the same in some of your posts that I have read, all black people don't think like that. This site sure is obsessed with and have a disdain for black people.

Not many nice posts concerning black people. Someone even called black people disgusting with only one or two rebuking the comment. Seems like there are more people here pushing their agenda then being a Christian.

I will say this as long as noone knew I was black, people here were kind and welcoming and spoke with grace & respect. As soon as I revealed that I was black. I was ganged up on. People became rude and obnoxious and I was even called "DUNG". There are some nice people here but the not so nice people outweigh them by ALOT.

I've got news for some, there will be black people in Heaven too. God loves and forgives us also. I'm so glad He is not like man.
excuse the typo the time lasped before I could fix it. Oh, and I have seen some of you on other sites and your behavior is not at all "Christian like" like you try to portray here.
 

ToastAndTea

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One thing I will say is that God hates the guilty to go free and the innocent to be punished. He alone knows if this man was indeed guilty. If he was, then he deserved to go to jail. You'd be a fool not to view as part of a much larger issue within American society though. If a sitting jury can be influenced by public opinion, then justice is not to be found within the American legal system.
 
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One thing I will say is that God hates the guilty to go free and the innocent to be punished. He alone knows if this man was indeed guilty. If he was, then he deserved to go to jail. You'd be a fool not to view as part of a much larger issue within American society though. If a sitting jury can be influenced by public opinion, then justice is not to be found within the American legal system.

Well an alternate juror came out and said that she felt afraid and intimidated that people would find her and show up at her house. If she feels that way don't expect me to believe she was the only one. No, this was the death of the justice system in America. And you can see it by the reaction to the situation where the cop had to shoot the young girl with the knife. Already the mob was there, making demands to see the tape and causing trouble. No, this wasn't justice.